Talk:Daniel Brühl

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Untitled[edit]

de:Daniel Brühl
Corresponding English-language article: Daniel Brühl
Worth doing because: famous film star (Good bye, Lenin!), no English article
Originally Requested by:130.246.132.26 13:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Status: done
Supported:

Do we really need the same photo twice in this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.48.65 (talk) 22:24, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't think so either, so I deleted the second one. Matricuria (talk) 18:24, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

does he really speak catalan?[edit]

if you watch this interview on Cataln TV you'll see that he understands catalan, as, I believe many castellano speakers do. But he had a really great oppurtunity to speak it here, and he sticks to Spanish the whole time. So, does he really speak it? I kinda doubt it. skak E L 14:09, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the existing source for the claim actually says he "... grew up speaking Spanish, German, Catalan.." I guess that's not really quite the same as speaking it now is it? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:51, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

He said in an interview with 'news.de' that he can barely speak Catalan and that he was embarrassed, when people in Barcelona spoke to him in Catalan (which he understands very well), he had to respond in Spanish. [1] Fulcher (talk) 01:12, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

cool. I changed it to say "understands Catalan". This is very common to Catalanoparlants in Espanya to be understood but gets responses back in Spanish. skak E L 09:56, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've added that interview report, from 'news.de', as a source. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:53, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth[edit]

de:Daniel Brühl lists 16 June 1978 as Brühl's DOB, and cites Munzinger-Archiv as the source. If this is not reliable, please let me know, either by Template:ping or on my talk page. Thanks. Grayfell (talk) 23:58, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to change his identity to Spanish-German[edit]

I don't see any discussion of his nationality, just a note in the article not to change it from German. He was born in Spain to a Spanish mother and German father, and he has dual citizenship. He divides his time between Barcelona and Berlin so he's not a resident of one or the other.[2] He says he grew up between two cultures but he does not identify as German, Spanish or Catalan but merely European.[3] I don't see why he should be emphasized as German when he is just as Spanish. It's not like he has four citizenships or something unruly - a dual national is perfectly acceptable in a lede. —Мандичка^YO 😜 05:09, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Wikimandia A minor detail, but I think it would make more sense to describe him as being "German-Spanish" first as opposed to "Spanish-German". He grew up in Germany, having moved there shortly after his birth, began his acting career in Germany and a lot of his credits are German productions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clear Looking Glass (talk • contribs) 03:23, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Last name[edit]

The last name of his mother is González Domingo. He would only take his mother's father's last name González as part of his last name. See also his name in the spanish and german article. --Anton Sachs (talk) 09:30, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Expanding the article[edit]

I have been spending considerable time expanding this article. Please do not revert without reason. Pandacat21 (talk) 11:02, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it doesn't look like "possible vandalism" to me. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:04, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps User:‎Ram Dhaneesh could explain the rationale? The last revert here has no explanation in the edit summary? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:16, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Pandacat21: @Martinevans123: Sorry for my mistake, by misunderstood it's happened, really felt sorry for my mistake. I got confused with another article. I felt sorry again. Dhaneesh 💙 Ram 15:01, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ohh if that's the case it's alright :) Pandacat21 (talk) 19:03, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for explaining, Ram Dhaneesh. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:19, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Daniel Brühl/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MrLinkinPark333 (talk · contribs) 00:49, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I'll be reviewing this article for Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/January 2022 --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:49, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for submitting this article to Good Article Nominations. Unfortunately, this article requires to be quickfailed per WP:GAFAIL as "It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria". Specifically, this article is a long way from passing Criteria #2 Verifiable with no original research. Here is an in-depth explanation of the verification issues that I have found taking a quick look through the article:

Verification issues[edit]

Full paragraphs without citations: Breakthrough and early success 1st paragraph (6 sentences), Breakthrough and early success 2nd paragraph (4 sentences), Marvel Cinematic Universe and continued acclaim 1st paragraph (4 sentences)
Partial paragraphs without citations: Early work 1st paragraph (2 sentences), Breakthrough and early success 3rd paragraph (2 sentences), Breakthrough and early success 4th paragraph (4 sentences), Worldwide recognition and critical acclaim 2nd paragraph (1 sentence), Worldwide recognition and critical acclaim 3rd paragraph (2 sentences), Marvel Cinematic Universe and continued acclaim 2nd paragraph (2 sentences)

I'm mostly concerned about the Breakthrough and early success section as all paragraphs have citations missing, especially with the 1st and 2 paragraphs having zero sources. On the other hand, the Marvel Cinematic Universe and continued acclaim 1st paragraph is the only one in that section with zero citations. With these 3 paragraphs alone, 14 sentences are uncited. If I were to include the other uncited parts of all sections, there is a total of 27 uncited sentences that I see. While I have not checked every source to determine whether there is original research or not, there are too much uncited sentences that sticks out. Therefore, I recommend working on this issue especially since Breakthrough and early success and Marvel Cinematic Universe and continued acclaim have the most combined uncited parts.

Unreliable sources[edit]

I see that IMDB has been cited a lot in this article. Of these citations in the award section, 10 citations are to award pages at IMDB and 13 citations are to Brühl's IMDB page. Per WP:IMDB, this website is generally unreliable. As there are 23 IMDB citations in the award section, I think these should be replaced with more reliable sources. Having 20+ citations to a generally unreliable website seems too much to me, especially since this is a Biography of a Living Person per WP:BLPRS.
Daniel Brühl News is a Tumblr post, making this a self-published source. Per WP:BLPSPS, self-published sources on Biographies of Living People by third party sources are not allowed. If this is content originally written by the German Information Centre Africa but published by a Tumblr user, the same text on the German Information Centre Africa would be more reliable. However, I don't see this content on their website. Therefore, these 4 usages of these citations must be replaced.

Overall[edit]

While I have not performed an in-depth review, I am very concerned that there are numerous uncited sentences and citations to unreliable sources. With these two issues, this article is a long way from passing criteria #2 Verifiable with no original research. Therefore, I'll have to quickfail this GAN. Taking a look at earlier versions of this article, full and partial uncited paragraphs were there before nomination. Thank you for helping expand this article, as it was only mentioned his films up to 2017. As you've done a lot of work to this article, I hope this review doesn't discourage you to help address these verification issues. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Good article criteria for the criteria that articles must pass. It can help you determine where areas need fixing. You can always resubmit this article to GAN at a later date once these issues are fixed. Thank you for submitting this article to GAN :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:50, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]