Talk:Cowboy hat

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Sombreros

What is the connection?

Where is the reference?

Stetson used to make Sombreros but that was many years after the cowboy hat. Is there any proof the design was somehow an inspiration for the all-weather cowboy hat?

This is being removed because Sombreros are already linked in the article.

-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- (talk) 04:28, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Some of these really minor edits need not go to talk if the edit summary explains all, which in this case, it did. (smile). Montanabw^(talk) 22:36, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

This talk page needs refactoring/archiving

Not too sure what the idea is behind the postings on this page and its layout but I really think it needs to be refactored and/or archived. These separate "articles" and "question/answer" sections on this talk page probably should be moved off onto subpages, leaving just regular posts from editors. -- œ^™ 01:06, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to create an archive, this talk page was just being used as a sandbox of sorts when all that stuff was there. I disfavor refractoring, but archiving would be appropriate. I don't have the time to do it, so be my guest. Montanabw^(talk) 04:33, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done -- œ^™ 23:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Montanabw^(talk) 21:11, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

kenny chesney and bret michaels style hats

I don't know if there a name for the styles of cowboy hats that are very popular these days (brim curved down in front and back, rolled up on the sides, and often made of straw) inspired perhaps by kenny chesney and bret michaels, but seems to me that they should be pictured or mentioned on this page. If you image search straw cowboy hat, the style is hardly all you see. (Wikipedia needs a big "pictures of hats" page to help people identify what they're looking for.) 71.190.72.157 (talk) 17:48, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Nah, not here. Celebrity stuff is sort of irrelevant, the beat up straw hat thing will be out of style in a couple years. And Bret Michels isn't even a country singer! Besides, even Bono wears one sometimes and he's an Irishman, for pete's sake! LOL! Not worth discussing in this article though I suppose celebrity cowboy-derived hats could go somewhere. In the real west, anyone wearing one of those things might as well stamp a great big sign on their back that says "I'm a dude! (grin). That said, while I'm not involved with WP hats, your idea of photos to lead to articles is a good one, I think. Is there a list of hats, or even a good navbox? Montanabw^(talk) 03:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Very Stetson biased

I feel that this article is almost more of a Stetson advertisement than an actual unbiased article on cowboy hats. While I am certainly not a western style hat expert I feel that this article could use some work to make it more credible. Just my two cents.

--Leupi (talk) 15:02, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

This is probably be because the best sourcing so far has focused on that company. I am not opposed to expansion of the article by adding information from other manufacturers. However, it IS fair to say that Stetson played a significant role in the design and development -- this to the point that when I was a kid, I remember a lot of written sources used "Stetson" and "cowboy hat" almost interchangeably, sort of like "Kleenex" for facial tissue or "Velcro" for hook-and-loop closure. Montanabw^(talk) 01:49, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Origins?

This article seems to suggest that there were no wide-brimmed hats worn in the US before Stetson began marketing his 'Boss of the Plains', or that wide-brimmed hats were unknown in the US until imported from Mexico. Wide-brimmed felt hats were, in fact, worn in the US well before the civil war. Also, both this article and the one on bowler/Derby hats contain the claim that more bowlers/Derbies were worn in the 19th century West than 'cowboy hats'. In both articles Lucius Beebe is quoted in support. Beebe was a 20th century New York writer, where did he get that information? Probably bowlers were more common than 'cowboy hats' in the 19th century West if you count the hat-wearing populations of San Francisco, San Diego, Los Angeles, Portland and Seattle. Likely townsmen in other parts of the West wore bowlers, too, but the rural population probably tended to wear wider-brimmed hats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.80.149 (talk) 23:41, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Hats & the Cowboys Who Wear Them

I've removed this source and placed a citation needed tag after all the claims which referenced it. The book was clearly comedic in nature and should not be used as a source. A quick look at an amazon preview of the book is enough to prove this, and the author himself states he does not intend to back up any of the claims. Hehpillt28 (talk) 00:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Editing the entire Page

Howdy guys!

My goal is to edit the format, sentence structure, and organization of this page. I will not make huge/ major changes directly. I will post the edits I would like to my on my sandbox. Link is below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmmonty16

Here, you can see if you agree or disagree with me on the changes that I have made. Keep on doing your thing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmmonty16 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

In the "Modern Design" section

Ornamentation, such as bows or buckles, are attached on the left side. Historically this had a practical purpose. Because the majority of people are right-handed, in the absence of a wide brim, bows or feathers on the right side of headwear could interfere with the use of weapons.[3]

• I won't pretend to know anything about the subject, but I was always under the impression that the reason for this, as well as the upturn in many styles, was due more to not interfering with the roping aspect more so than guns or weapons. Does this makes sense to you folks who are familiar with the subject? (I only wear them because I like them, not because I do any ranch work) — Ched (talk) 01:41, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

  Ched, from what I saw on the Google Books preview, the Bix Bender source is very marginal in terms of reliability. It is written quite tongue-in-cheek. I don't doubt there are plenty of facts behind it, but I would also say that this book is written for the humor and may not shy from exaggerations, etc. The text was added in this edit and claims pg. 90 of the book. The editor is not our usual "drive-by falsification" IP, so there may be something to it. Elizium23 (talk) 01:51, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

  Hey there Elizium23, thank you for such a quick reply. I can definitely see how such things could be a nuisance when shooting a rifle; so I'm not saying it's a false claim. Perhaps there was a lot more shooting than roping back in the day. :-). Anyway - thanks for the reply. It was just something that came to mind as I was reading. Cheers. — Ched (talk) 10:54, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

History and Origin Correction

Arizona, California, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Nevada, and Utah were territories that belonged to Mexico and the sombrero and cowboy style (boots and sombrero mainly) its completely traditional of Mexico. People from US, adopted this from the Mexican culture. After being exposed to the neighbour's culture being neighbour countries, a mutual cultural exchange and influence happened just naturally, and even more after these states (which kept the same Spanish names) were unwillingly sold to US. 193.116.240.198 (talk) 13:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)