Talk:Commonwealth of England/Archive 3

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Scotland "annexation" etc

Currently the captions in the two before and after maps state that Scotland was "annexed" in 1653 (and also suggest by their coloration that Ireland was fully incorporated before 1653). I'm not sure we can be as specific as that. As noted in earlier discussions you could probably pick one of several dates for when Scotland was brought under English control, whether in part or in whole, and whether in practical terms or more legally defined ones. N-HH talk/edits 20:58, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Also the map excluding Scotland has problems with dates. Whatever the English government was claiming Ireland was definitely not within the Commonwealth in 1649 as the war was still ongoing in that country for most of 1650. Further Ireland had no representation in the English Parliament until the Barebones Parliament of 1653 when most of the representives were members of the English occupation army (see here) -- PBS (talk) 22:42, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Modified union jack used during the second Commonwealth

http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1660/05/13/ notes that the Jack of the second Commonwealth was the old union flag with a harp on it, and that Pepys mentions the harp was removed in 1660 during the voyage over to the Netherlands to bring Charles II back to England. -- PBS (talk) 18:40, 26 September 2014 (UTC)