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The page on the Colorado Mountain Club should not be deleted.

The speedy deletion tag mentioned "This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a club, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia."

Indeed this page is about a club, the Colorado Mountain Club, but the need for this page has been called for on numerous other referring pages, including an existing page on the American Alpine Club, obviously also a club.

The Colorado Mountain Club has a long history in the state, dating to 1912 when it was formed. The club was instrumental in the creation of Rocky Mountain National Park nearly 100 years ago, and has had many notable historic figures among its membership (cited in the article), including Dick Lamm, former Colorado Governor.

Further, I thought that citing a reference from an existing book in print would be helpful. The existing American Alpine Club page does not have any references.

I would be happy to modify this page to make it conform to Wikipedia standards, and welcome any suggestions.

Johnnyonthespot18 (talk) 23:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Update: more club pages DO exist in Wikipedia.

Three other notable clubs, The Mazamas, The Mountaineers (Pacific NW), and Appalachian Mountain Club each have Wikipedia pages. The criterion, "because the article appears to be about a club, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable" from section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion does not apply in this case, as these clubs are all very similar, but simply in different geographic areas of the country.

Johnnyonthespot18 (talk) 00:15, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Update: existing club page references CMC

Please note this reference to the CMC from the existing American Alpine Club page, "While the AAC holds annual and regional meetings, the AAC does not guide or lead trips compared to the Canadian Alpine Club and other clubs such as the Sierra Club, the Colorado Mountain Club, the Appalachian Mountain Club, etc. In this respect it is somewhat closer to the US National Ski Patrol in advisory function."

Clearly, this pre-existing link to the CMC indicated a need for such an informational page.

Johnnyonthespot18 (talk) 01:38, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Totally Wrong to Delete This Page[edit]

Deleting this page is a very poor suggestion indeed. I suggest a speedy deletion of the deletion tag.

Calamitybrook (talk) 01:24, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the support![edit]

Of course, I agree with you completely, Calamitybrook. Now, who is in charge of removing said deletion tag? What else has to happen to make sure this page stays alive?

Thank you for your help.

Johnnyonthespot18 (talk) 01:29, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy[edit]

I deleted the speedy tag I put there because I had not noticed some of the bits about the Museum, which seems notable--I jumped the gun. In general with speedy tags anyone EXCEPT the page's author can remove them. That said this article needs to cite some more sources. Apologies again. TallNapoleon (talk) 01:42, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks to me at the moment that the article has plenty of sources.

I'm really glad it's on Wikipedia. Colorado Mountain Club is obviously among key organizations in the U.S. mountaineering. I can't conceive of a rational for its deletion.

Calamitybrook (talk) 22:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly oppose deletion. It's a short article, but that's OK for a start. It is sourced (although the formatting of the references needs to be fixed) and makes a clear claim to notability, through the links between CMC and its press, the Mountaineering Center, and the Fourteeners. Is there still an RfD that I should comment on too? -- Spireguy (talk) 01:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]