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Regularizing spelling

The naming conventions section explains that chupacabras is the original spelling, but that chupacabra is the regularized spelling. I have therefore regularized the spelling to the best of my ability.--~TPW 22:05, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Talk archiving

Is there any objection to setting up automatic archiving for this talk page?--~TPW 22:08, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm just a drive-by editor, but be bold. Worst thing that can happen is somebody not liking it and reverting it. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 22:20, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2014

I believe that another Chupacabra was reported in Vernon Valley, NJ by a young couple who just moved into their first home. Jessedh (talk) 14:14, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as your "belief" is not enough.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, albeit that, in the context of this article "reliable" can only mean reported. - Arjayay (talk) 14:22, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Correct Origin of the Myth is Missing

I first heard of el Chupacabra around 1980 in northern Arizona, where the stories were told as monster tales among school boys. The alleged sightings in 1995 borrow the name from a much older myth. This page completely misses that, in favor of the hype caused the the alleged sightings after 1995. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:420:405:1350:8D9C:363D:1B5A:2698 (talk) 19:40, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Improper history

  • The legend dates back to at least the 1950s and merely reached wide notoriety in the mid-90s.[See, for example.][1]
  • Folklorist/anthropology sources badly needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.202.34 (talk) 07:25, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2014

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Looks like you just want to add "Seen in the video game Diablo III under the name of "Chupa Khazra"". Find a reliable source that says this exists and I will be happy to enter it Cannolis (talk) 02:53, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

In popular culture

The popularity of the chupacabra has resulted in its being featured in several types of media.

  • At least one published mystery novel uses aspects of the myth as the centerpoint of the plot.[1] Other kinds of books include those that provide a scientific explanation for the phenomena.[2][3]
  • CNN's Ed Lavandera has described the chupacabra as the "Bigfoot of Latino culture" and has stated that "El Chupacabra also symbolizes the fear of something that doesn't exist".[4] Following the incident in Cuero, Texas, the popularity of the chupacabra myth was receiving global attention.[5] Phylis Canion, who was responsible for capturing the alleged specimen, claimed that T-shirts highlighting the event were shipped to locations such as Italy, Guam, and Iraq. The publicity that Cuero received following this event has led to some suggesting changing the town's mascot.[5] In July 2008, History's Monster Quest series featured the Texas carcasses, which were determined to be dogs and coyotes.[6]
  • In Season 2, episode 45 of Dexter's Laboratory, Dexter, boy genius, creates 'La Chupacabra' by mistake, a creature who devours everything, and makes its way to South America. Dexter and DeeDee go there to find and stop it.[9]
  • In Season 4, episode 11, "El Mundo Gira" of The X-Files, the mythology is the background for the story, but the episode's strange deaths are shown to have a different cause.
  • Seen in the video game Diablo III under the name of "Chupa Khazra".

John.k.ireland (talk) 21:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Wagner, Lloyd. El Chupacabras: Trail of the Goatsucker. ISBN 0-595-33315-X
  2. ^ Corrales, Scott. Chupacabras: And Other Mysteries. ISBN 1-883729-06-8
  3. ^ Authors, Mandy, and Clifton C. Phillips. Chupacabra, You Don't Scare Me! ISBN 0-8059-4490-7
  4. ^ "Illegal Immigrants Frightened by Raid Rumors; George Bush: "The Decider"; "Happy Slapping"". CNN. May 2, 2006. Retrieved October 5, 2007.
  5. ^ a b "Chupacabra craze goes global". KVUE. August 28, 2007. Archived from the original on December 4, 2007. Retrieved October 5, 2007.
  6. ^ "MonsterQuest: Chupacabra". July 23, 2008. Retrieved July 24, 2008.
  7. ^ Chupacabras(lyrics). Super Furry Animals. Radiator (album). 1997
  8. ^ Beale, Lewis (26 December 2007). "Chupacabras Marvel back". NY Daily News. Retrieved 2013-06-22.
  9. ^ "Dexters Lab: Got Your Goat". Retrieved February 23, 2014.

Semi-protected edit request on 25 December 2014

half of the sources for this article are 404's. can't be found. = hoaxes. also, it's a ####### hoax. it doesn't exists. take some ####### responsability. 176.10.248.195 (talk) 18:52, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

You don't seem to know what an encyclopedia is, do you? Having an article on something doesn't mean saying it's true. Otherwise we wouldn't have articles on Greek gods or Star Trek episodes. Still, have a good time learning about stuff. Happy Christmas! Sophie means wisdom (talk) 19:28, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
Not done: - You haven't requested anything ..... Quick note - Any dead cites can be added via archive sites anyway, Please only use the edit request to actually request edits to said article, Thanks, –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 19:59, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2015

Sightings; 01/28/2015 by Johnny Depp. Quoted from an entry on the Associated Press upon his arrival in Japan to promote his latest film "Mortdecai" in Tokyo. Johnny Depp has recovered from a cold,.and a chupacabra attack. The 51-year-old actor was all smiles while joking Wednesday with journalists in Tokyo about why he was a no-show at a news conference a day earlier. Depp explained he had been ill but said that wasn't the reason. "I was attacked yesterday morning by a very rarely seen or experienced animal called 'chupacabra.' I fought with it for hours. They're very persistent, very mean. And I'm pretty sure it came into my suitcase. I threw him off the 23rd floor. So we'll never see him again. Thank you for understanding," he said. Depp's tale drew laughs from the crowd of reporters. Bwkenworthy (talk) 18:29, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  18:36, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request 7 February 2015

Should add in Popular Culture section:

The episode 5 of season 2 of the TV series The Walking Dead is titled Chupacabra (The Walking Dead). The parallel is made through the character of Daryl, which hunts and eats raw flesh from game meat. He also scares his companions on his way back to the barn. This reference to the chupacabra legend in a zombie universe emphasizes the need for bloodsucking of both fictional creatures. Savoiretpouvoir (talk) 01:24, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 16:56, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

It needs some help, first off there's some bad grammar. I'm not the best at fixing it so some one else should do the job :/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grubbyman3 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

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Edit Request: In Popular Culture addition

The popular "Red Dead Redemption" video game "Undead Nightmare" DLC expansion pack refers to El Chupacabra as a primary plot element key to completion of the overall objective for the game. References and lore are explored through much of the dialogue and plot naratives within the game. SquashEngineer (talk) 17:13, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

References:

SquashEngineer (talk) 17:43, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Missing word in first paragraph

"The chupacabra or chupacabras (Spanish pronunciation: [tʃupaˈkaβɾas], literally "goat-sucker") is a legendary creature in the folklore of parts the Americas,...."

should be

"The chupacabra or chupacabras (Spanish pronunciation: [tʃupaˈkaβɾas], literally "goat-sucker") is a legendary creature in the folklore of parts OF the Americas,...."

The word 'of' is missing.

(not sure this is the place) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ToBHonest (talk • contribs) 21:12, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

I corrected it as advised. --Anareth (talk) 12:57, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

J. Talavera's chupacabra sighting, 2000

Hi, I have a suggestion: What about inserting J.Talavera's historic sighting of the chupacabra in Nicaragua? He shot the chupacabra and removed the skeleton. what do you think? Gigantopithecusman (talk) 13:10, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Edit req

I was going to reorganise the article, most importantly move the description to near the top, instead of at the bottom after the dozens of "sightings", but found it locked. Why is this article permanently protected? It seems to have become a repository of every single sighting ever made. Is that encyclopaedic? The article is bloated already. All it needs is a small number of representative reports. 202.81.249.141 (talk) 17:05, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

@202.81.249.141: The article is protected precisely because it became "a repository of every single sighting ever made" (as well as a dump for trivia) a few years ago. It has since crept back to that state, so I'm proposing a rewrite above. Thanks for your concern. - Caribbean~H.Q. 05:48, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Cryptozoology, Pseudoscience, and WP:UNDUE

A user has been reverting the removal of "cryptid" from the introduction. Wikipedia doesn't promote fringe theories and it doesn't get a whole lot more fringe in these matters than cryptozoology, which is a pseudoscience. Cryptid is a term used solely by cryptozoologists and describing this being, an example of modern folklore (contemporary legend), as a "cryptid" directly violates WP:UNDUE and WP:FRINGE. :bloodofox: (talk) 04:18, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

@Bloodofox:@Dimadick: I have been meaning to talk to both of you since the scuffle over the lead. First of all, I was the one that protected the page years ago due to a difficulty keeping the language apt for an encyclopedia, so there is previous knowledge on my part about the difficulty handling the topic. Lately, I have been discussing how to use legends and/or folklore in another subset of Puerto Rico-related article and think that this one may fall under a similar category. In the past, I also worked in the Roberto Cofresí biography and tried my best to separate the documented history from the folklore while keeping the depiction of the latter as neutral as possible in a subpage. Being something contemporary and active (and also outside my expertise) I am willing to make more concessions in this one, aiming for a balanced (literally 50/50 between skeptic/supporter narratives) prose, but will need the feedback of people to accomplish it.
If you two are willing to help me, and hopefully bring new people into the discussion with you, I could search my local library (which being a Puerto Rican library, most likely has a couple of books on the matter) and do my part to, perhaps, reach a prose that makes both sides happy and help me sort the folkloric articles as well. As far as I can tell, WP:CRYPTO has no good articles, I assume because most of the people involved in editing them have a strong opinion for either their existence or non-existence, leading to instability and edit wars; I don't have any particular interest in the Chupacabra per se (other than it being one a target for anon vandals in the past), so perhaps we could set an example here that may be used in similar articles. If we could somehow push it to GA after a reaching a consensus in prose, chances are that we could get a DYK in the main page if we propose October 31 as a target date.
If you guys are willing to cooperate, I propose that we set a date so we can begin working in a couple of weeks. - Caribbean~H.Q. 05:44, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Brief Critique

Each fact is referenced, and most of the sources used are reliable references, some of the sources are from Fox News and CNN, but revolve around interviews with people who have seen el Chupacabra. Everything mentioned was relevant. Nothing was introduced that was off-topic.The language remains neutral throughout. Information comes from a variety of sources, from scholarly articles and books about the cryptid as well as from local interviews with people who have seen it. The sources are neutral as well. Quite a few of the links did not work. A lot of the links needed to be redirected or the page seemed to be missing. There is one part about the appearance that can be understood as biased against the idea of a dog-like appearance. Rkennedy20 (talk) 00:31, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2017

I wish to add the following bullet point into the In popular culture section (I know there are strict notability requirements for In popular culture. I think this qualifies given that the anime has its own WP article and two whole episodes covered the subject):

  • The Chupacabra is featured as a mascot of the fictional village of Manoyama throughout the 2017 Japanese anime Sakura Quest [1] Phrh8 (talk) 07:59, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Not done: about half the references currently present should be removed; this isn't notable enough. Power~enwiki (talk) 04:21, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Cooking With Anime - Manju from "Sakura Quest"". Crunchyroll. Retrieved 1 May 2017.

Reputed Sightings

I deleted the entire section, as it seems unsalvageable. If anyone wants to salvage it, go ahead. Power~enwiki (talk) 04:31, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2017

add Category:Belizean folklore Amittrov (talk) 07:15, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Not done: DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 09:23, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
@Amittrov:, Belize is not mentioned in the article. You need to provide references first that Chupacabra is also a Belizean phenomenon, before adding a Belize category. Daß Wölf 17:55, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 July 2017

Add the following to "In popular culture" for this article. 

"Chupacabra" is the fifth episode of the second season and 11th episode overall of the post-apocalyptic horror television series The Walking Dead.

with a link from "Chupacabra" to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chupacabra_(The_Walking_Dead) Branchazel (talk) 02:37, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Not done: This is on Chupacabra (disambiguation), it's excessive to include it on this page. The article doesn't claim that chupacabras are in the episode, it's just a title. Power~enwiki (talk) 02:41, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Not legendary not folklore

"The chupacabra or chupacabras is a legendary creature in the folklore of parts of the Americas"

No, it's an URBAN LEGEND since 1995. That does not qualify as "legendary" or "folklore". 84.227.44.248 (talk) 12:13, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes, it does. See the articles on legendary and folklore - neither requires extreme antiquity. --tronvillain (talk) 14:01, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

"Incident in Cuero"

The "In popular culture" section mentions the "incident in Cuero," but this is not referenced anywhere else in the article. 68.156.95.34 (talk) 06:19, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Sighted in Pakistan

The creature is sighted in a scrapyard are with a graveyard behind it Hasham Haider (talk) 23:54, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Question

I was wondering... does the Chupacabra get dandruff?

That probably depends on how often he's washing his hair, and if he's using dandruff shampoo. However, I personally believe that he does, seeing as he's probably way too busy killing goats to properly cleanse. Kakashilover7 (talk) 23:00, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2019

Add "Scooby Doo! and the Monster of Mexico" movie to the popular culture references. Jiggajiggajagga (talk) 17:18, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NiciVampireHeart 17:25, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Timeline

I don't really believe in the Chupacabra, but the timeline of the "reporter" that looked into it doesn't fit. movie came out july 1995, first sighting came march 1995. So unless she watched the movie early (this is 1995 and puerto rico vs america; no way she had internet either), their reporting sucked. Unless this site and a dozen others have their info wrong, it would be impossible for her to see the movie before the report as the "reported" claimed. --66.116.42.92 (talk) 04:49, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

you make a good point. The interviewee was not one of the march sightings but a later august sighting. I've updated the article to better reflect what the book actually says. Wickedjacob (talk) 09:10, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
on looking at the original book, the reports of mutilation were in march but no claimed eyewitness until August. Wickedjacob (talk) 06:30, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

"Big Bird, Texas" listed at Redirects for discussion

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"Big Bird, TX" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Edit request - Chupacabra

Add to "In Popular Culture" the character Chupacabra in the animated feature Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation voiced by Jaime Camil — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eegnull (talk • contribs) 17:59, 5 June 2020 (UTC) request edit to popular culture, Chubacabra is spoken of in The Walking Dead — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.6.243.149 (talk) 20:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Not a proper edit request, but the answer would be no. The goal isn't to list every possible movie or show that mentions it. Since you haven't edited since this request, I don't expect you will see it, but it's answered. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 16:57, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2021

Nitheesh Yevan (talk) 06:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Can you make an article on an Indian cryptid, Raktha Adhika.

 Not done, I couldn't find any information on the Rathka Adhika, but you are welcome to create an article on it it as long as you find neutral sources covering it. Also, the talk page for Chupacabra isn't the place to request this. I welcomed you on your personal talk page and there are some links there that may help you in getting started on Wikipedia. Ericfood (talk | contribs) 06:29, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2021

Nitheesh Yevan (talk) 07:08, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Opal|zukor(discuss) 08:00, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2021

Add to "Popular Culture" section: in the 1997 episode of Dexter's Laboratory entitled "Got Your Goat," Dexter's missing pet Charlie is revealed to be a chupacabra. 75.165.45.155 (talk) 03:34, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 19:49, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2021

In the third paragraph under "History," the statement "forensic experts opined that street dogs were responsible for mass killing of domestic animals and poultry after studying the remnants of a corpse" should be appended with a "citation needed" disclaimer.

The text should be changed to "forensic experts opined that street dogs were responsible for mass killing of domestic animals and poultry after studying the remnants of a corpse[citation needed]" Wetsocks3499 (talk) 15:32, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done. ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 19:49, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

A type of undiscovered fossa?

I took out a theory that chupacabras could be a type of undiscovered fossa. There's no source and I'm a bit skeptical about it (but I could be wrong). Apparently fossas are native to Madagascar (a long way away from Puerto Rico) and they don't look anything like a chupacabra to me haha. If someone has a source for it than definitely put it back/ BuySomeApples (talk) 23:27, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2021

For the media reference section, in Season 4 of "We Bare Bears", there is a whole episode on the Chupacabra. The episode is called "El Oso." Link: https://webarebears.fandom.com/wiki/El_Oso_(episode) Oceanfarmer (talk) 20:36, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done. Non-notable, no reliable source. See WP:WTAF. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 21:42, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
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