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For the university wikiproject on article improvement[edit]

Hello, I am a student at the university of Ca'Foscari, Venice, taking part in a wikiproject on Crime and Justice in 18th c. England. As a part of the project I have to contribute to the improvement of one of the assigned articles regarding a thief taker, Charles Hitchen. For the beginning I would like to offer following additional sources:

http://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/hitchin2.htm
http://www.rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/hitchin1.htm
Robert Aldrich and Garry Wotherspoon "Who is Who, in Gay and Lesbian History, from Antiquity to World War II", (London and New York, 2001)

https://books.google.it/books?id=tLkYkutHlyAC&pg=PA212&lpg=PA212&dq=charles+hitchin+thieftaker&source=bl&ots=VjFkgoM8nj&sig=CLjJHhhFHbpSte0MzwUp5m91Q6U&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0CFYQ6AEwCGoVChMIovGX9b7wyAIVwlYaCh2cvQcL#v=onepage&q&f=false

Charles Hitchin, Sexual Offences > sodomy, Sexual Offences > assault with sodomitical intent, 12th April 1727 http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t17270412-41-defend243&div=t17270412-41#highlight
Frederick J. Lyons, "Jonathan Wild, Prince of Robbers" (Plymouth, 1936)
Howson, Gerald. Thief-Taker General: Jonathan Wild and the Emergence of Crime and Corruption as a Way of Life in Eighteenth-Century England. New Brunswick, NJ and Oxford, UK: 1970
Hal Gladfelder "Criminality and Narrative in 18th. century England", (The Johns Hopkins university press, 2001)
http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/Charles_Hitchen
The Tyburn Chronicle: Or, The Villainy Display'd In All Its Branches, volume 2, https://books.google.it/books?id=VOdCAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=it&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://library.villanova.edu/Find/Record/1025363

Suggestions for improvement[edit]

Hi! Lela Lazishvili You have done a great job adding information and, most important, references! Here are some suggestions for you to further improve your article:

you could add some images to the article to make it more pleasant to read. For example, since Hitchen is closely connected to Wild, you could put the image of Jonathan Wilde. Here is the link to the [Wikipedia Commons] with some results on Wild. Also an image of the Pillory could be interesting, as Hitchen suffered this punishment. I found these pictures: [John Waller in pillory], [Titus Oates in the Pillory], [Pillory Charing Cross]
I think that more details could be could be added about the trial of Hitchen at the Old Bailey, or at least you coul make reference to the Proceedings: this is the Reference Number: t17270412-41, and the link to the trial: [Charles Hitchin, 12th April 1727]

I hope I have been useful. If I can think of something else I'll write to you! Altereli (talk) 12:07, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Altereli, useful suggestion! I was thinking about uploading the images, but I will use the ones you've mentioned. I was also thinking about the last paragraphs and totally agree with you. Thanks a lot!Lela Lazishvili (talk) 15:57, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Useful link[edit]

Here's a useful link on Charles Hitchen's account 5) Charles Hitchin Pbord (talk) 15:25, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mirror / compliment[edit]

Just as note, one of the links above (gutenberg.org) is to a Wikipedia mirror: a copy of this very article in an earlier state. I've removed it from the external links section as it adds no value.

Further, this has to be one of the best student article re-writes I've run across - very nice job! 03:49, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Not succinct enough[edit]

I agree the article is very interesting, though the language is very loose and needs disciplined copyediting, possibly because too much archaic detail from sources has been reproduced. This needs considerable pruning to meet the 'plain and simple' criterion. Bjenks (talk) 05:42, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Interpretation[edit]

What does "largely due to his inaccuracy and growing contempt of people he himself appeared the subject of the Justice [sic]" mean?Royalcourtier (talk) 01:15, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]