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TOTALITARIAN LANGUAGE[edit]

I would like to strongly suggest that the use of totalitarian language such as the phrase "holocaust denier" should be avoided in a free society. The word "denier" added to any other concept, including "evolution denier", for example, suggests that people have no right to freedom of thought or conscience. And worse, that they have no right to investigate for themselves the alleged verity of supposed facts of history. They must, by virtue of such a term, accept on "strict faith" what others tell them, including their predecessors; and have no right to determine to their own satisfaction the truth of past and present events. Nothing can be more enslaving than the word "denier" attached to any other word in order to denigrate certain individuals for using their minds according to their own consciences.

I would suggest that the word "skeptic" would be more appropriate; i.e, "holocaust skeptic"; "evolution skeptic". Galileo, for example, was a "skeptic" who believed the Sun did not revolve around the Earth, and was socially punished by totalitarians of his era for his belief; eventually, many would say he was proved right. Although, of course, there may still be "flat Earthers" who are "deniers" that the Earth orbits the sun.

Totalitarian language is a bad precedent which helps, in Orwellian fashion, to diminish the general range of thought by stigmatizing people for actually thinking. (unsigned)

  • Evolution is a theory, so people can disagree with it and propose other theories. The Sun revolving around the Earth was a theory, and it was proven to be wrong. We don't bestow the title of "skeptic" on those who still belive that the Sun revolves around the Earth. The Holocaust is not a theory, but a fact. People who deny that fact can reasonable be called deniers. (There is no point in making an argument here about the Holocaust did not happen as this is not the place for it. There are lots of other places on the internet where this counterfactual argument is made. These conspiracy theories are also discussed in Wikipedia in this article: Holocaust denial. There is a good discussion of the term "denial" there.) Ground Zero | t 16:59, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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