Talk:Cai Lun

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Poo Mu-chou citation wrong[edit]

Poo Mu-chou's surname is Poo, not Mu-chou. I recommend having the citation as something like "Poo Mu-chou (2018). Daily Life in Ancient China". Mucube (talk) 05:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake, good catch! Now fixed. Aza24 (talk) 20:46, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Vital articles § Add Cai Lun and James Watt. The person who loves reading (talk) 16:11, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing and poor representations of appearance[edit]

I believe the portrait of Emperor Zhang on this page is unnecessary and confusing; a casual viewer could easily (as I did initially) mistake the portrait for one of Cai Lun, especially considering the similarity in appearance to the central figure in the image of “Patron Saint Cai Lun.” In fact, all of the images on the page must be incorrect, as they portray Cai with a beard, and as a eunuch he wouldn’t have had one. This is evident in the majority of recent representations, for example https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hunan_International_Economics_University23.jpg, his statue at Cai Lun Memorial Hall in Leiyang, and the official postage stamp of 1962: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cai_Lun_New.jpg. Any one of these would be more appropriate than the images currently used on this page. UnbrokenMonkey (talk) 18:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since all portrayals are inherently totally fictional, I don't see why using beardedness should be a deciding criteria. Remsense 22:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, and such a rationale is essentially WP:OR. Both images the OP links are not in public domain; the stamp will not be until 2057, and the Statue is not due to commons:Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/China#Freedom_of_panorama. For the record, both images were used in the article until these issues were discovered during FAC.
The current image is a commonly used representation of Cai by modern sources, reproduced in Tsien 1985, Hunter & Hunter 1978 and Hart 2000. Aza24 (talk) 01:43, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]