Talk:Borough of Manhattan Community College/Archives/2015

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Cleanup of Fiterman Hall building

According to a WNBC-TV report, "Unlike the Deutsche Bank building, project leaders said Fiterman Hall will be inspected and cleaned first and then brought down. Although details for the recovery of remains were scarce, CUNY said much of the process is headed by the medical examiner's office." [1] Dogru144 03:39, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Tribeca film fest

BMCC is also home to part of the TriBeCa film festival. can anyone find any souces on that? I've been there 1st hand but thats 'original research'. Roxanne Edits 21:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Google and NY Times

Did you try searching Google (or the New York Times) for Tribeca Film Festival? — Robert Greer (talk) 02:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

to do

My students in CIS 235 (computer operations) at BMCC will be enhancing this entry.Robert Greer (talk) 19:03, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

create a description for each of the following majors or for the department offering it

Thanks for the help and the great idea in getting students involved in a Wikipedia entry about their college. - Taospark (talk) 00:59, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

please create and use your "sandbox"

Please do your editing for the time being in your "sandbox."
To create it, I would type User:Robertpgreer/Sandbox in the search window at the left side of the screen, then click on Go.
I'd receive the following message:
Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact name. Before creating this page, please see Wikipedia:Subpages.
The first choice beneath this message is:
Start the User:Robertpgreer/Sandbox' page
Click on it and I can start editing in my "sandbox."
Click on Save page and it's saved! — Robertpgreer (talk) 15:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Please note that there is a specific guideline for how this article is supposed to be structured. You may review WP:UNIGUIDE for more details. Thank you for your continued cooperation. - Jameson L. Tai talkcontribs 17:28, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

CONTRADICTION IN TEXT

"...Its ability to grant Associate's Degrees at an impressive rate and to foster continuing education at senior colleges" in Academics section does not reconcile well with USDoE-supplied graduation/transfer rates.67.242.64.63 (talk) 06:04, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

There are several issues here. First, the claims about awards and recognition were completely unsourced so I removed them entirely. Second, the sentence with graduation rates appears to have been lazily cut-and-paste from the cited source. It's very unhelpful to provide readers with statistics and figures without also providing context (e.g., norms, definitions). On those grounds, I also removed that sloppily added, unhelpful sentence. ElKevbo (talk) 07:19, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
Interesting comment; sadly, meaningless. A direct quotation — which that was — taken from an electronic source by cut-and-paste does not differ, so far as I can see, from one typed in word-by-word. As to the comment anent norms & definitions, since this was not a paper on the statistical foundations of college assessment, but merely a puff-piece on the college, in which claims about the college's "success rate" (a term of art) were advanced that were not supported by the numbers, the citation of the contradicting fact from a reasonably reliable, even authoritative source (a White House web page providing information based on data compiled by the USDOE), without further comment, was entirely appropriate. To not understand this is to suggest a lamentable deficiency in judgment which further study and consideration may remedy. Your elimination of the puff is appropriate; your retention of the exculpation is unfortunate; however charitable.67.242.64.63 (talk) 17:52, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Academics

BMK has reverted edits for the Academics section twice, so I would like to continue this conversation with BMK here, as well as invite other editors to join in. The edits preferred by BMK cites two dead links and two NYTimes articles. Yes, NYTimes articles are regarded as more reliable than a website generated by the school. However, the first NYTimes article doesn't mention BMCC and the second one merely mentions that a person from Rwanda attends BMCC. Neither directly relate to the information in this section.

The information cited from the College website is factual not trying to show itself in "as good as light as possible" as asserted by BMK.

Did you look for other articles from reliable sources instead of going directly to a primary source? BMK (talk) 03:06, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi, BMK. Yes. And I fully intend to continue to build on this section. The initial edit (and, again, I was careful not to include any subjective information) is a first step towards an improved article. The original (and, now, current) edit is very poorly sourced and the NYTimes articles that are sourced are poorly used as they do not relate to the topic at hand. WP:AGF Megs (talk) 03:12, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
How about this, then, replace the current material, which you think is poorly sourced, with better sourced material from secondary sources only- I'm certain they're out there. (I assume you have access to a college library,so the Internet needn't be your only resource.) Don't remove the current material until you have secondarily-sourced material to replace it. Then you can augment that material with information from primary sources.
How does that sound? BMK (talk) 03:31, 27 April 2015 (UTC)