Talk:Borama

Article name

If the English spelling is "Borama" (as used throughout the article), I wonder if this should be moved to Borama (currently a redirect)? -- Gyrofrog (talk) 01:16, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Y Done, thanks to Middayexpress. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:44, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

And you also need to look at the population again and uodate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rooble afdeed (talk • contribs) 20:00, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Location of Borama, and avoiding a potential edit war

Recently, there have been some edits suggesting that Borama is in Somalia. This is is factually incorrect, as the town is under the full defacto jurisdiction of the Republic of Somaliland authorities. It seems to me that MustafaO that has been reverting the edits and is doing so based on an ideological or (more likely, from looking at his edit history) a tribal bias against Somaliland, and is misrepresenting the facts on this basis. I would like to avoid an edit war, and thank Kzl55 for taking preemptive action to prevent this. I ask whether moderators can take some actions to prevent these edits, such as protecting the page temporarily? Thanks. A nur123 (talk) 00:44, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

The phrasing used for another city in the region is "the self-declared but internationally unrecognised Republic of Somaliland in the Horn of Africa". Would this be acceptable? Dbfirs 16:11, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 April 2020

The population of Borama is over 800,000 people and not 300,000 people. 2607:FEA8:3120:4A4:918C:B6B8:4503:834 (talk) 08:06, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

What source are you using for that? Is it possible that number refers to the metropolitan area? – Thjarkur (talk) 10:01, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2021

This article incorrectly lists Boroma as a Somaliland city. Boroma officially resides in Somalia, as Somaliland is not an actual country recognized by the world. 2600:8806:2200:400:2D80:E21A:A4C4:52EB (talk) 20:07, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. This week be a contentious change. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:14, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

the population.

i kindly request from you to write the newest population rate, 2014 is way back, thank you. Rooble afdeed (talk) 20:20, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 December 2022

Kaydooz (talk) 17:56, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Borama is green, beautiful city and also peacefull, as people say borama is welcoming and the people of borama are so kind and moslty educated. The Town has several mountains surround it, that is the weather is moslty cold with mildly strong winds in the winter especially at evenings.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lemonaka (talk) 18:13, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 August 2023

The article currently says, "It was re-captured by the British the following year, in 1940". The British re-captured Borama and the rest of Somaliland during Operation Appearance, which took place in 1941, not 1940. Trevor Mangus (talk) 20:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Pinchme123 (talk) 14:53, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

[1][2][3] Trevor Mangus (talk) 15:42, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: First link goes to a book I can't get access to. Second link goes to a blog that can't be used, and only mentions the Italians taking Borama in 1940, not the British retaking it in 1941. Third link is a source that might be reliable, but seems sketchy--whatever the case, the text of the article doesn't even mention Borama. Not that we could use it as a reliable source, we do have an article on Operation Appearance that gives the dates of the operation as 16 March – 8 April 1941, but again the only mention of Borama is of the Italian occupation in 1940. The citation given for that paragraph doesn't return any hits for Borama either. I also checked for the alternative spelling, Boorama. Leaving this open in case someone else has luck with the first citation: this link is better. Xan747 ✈️ 🧑‍✈️ 16:17, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Understood. I'll continue to work through this until the article has the required source information. 👍

Generally speaking, I'm aware that Italy occupied all of British Somaliland in 1940 and that Britain recaptured it in 1941. Likewise, given that Borama was a part of British Somaliland, it is fair to say that Italy captured Borama in 1940 and Britain recaptured it in 1941.

I'm rather new to editing here, so I figure its a matter of finding a source that *explicitly* states Borama was recaptured by the British in 1941? Instead of a source claiming that Britain recaptured all of Somaliland in 1941, which isn't specific enough? If not, there are multiple sources that confirm Britain's recapture of all of Somaliland in 1941.

I found a source that confirms the British recapture of Borama in 1941 [4]. But, I don't know if Wikipedia considers this to be a reliable source. The map shows the British recapture of Somaliland in 1941.

In addition, this Wikipedia article does not cite a source regarding Borama's history during World War Two, yet it still has information about it.

I'll keep looking, but if anyone finds an acceptable source for this information, please post it. Trevor Mangus (talk) 05:51, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I was saying that the source should explicitly state that Borama was recaptured in 1941. See WP:OR, and especially its subsection, WP:SYNTH.

You're right that this article doesn't have any supporting citations for Borama's WWII history. It's quite possible that whoever wrote this article lifted it from the Operation Appearance article, which appears to be very well-sourced. But see, Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a reliable source.

Which brings me to the fact that the most recent source you provided, [5], cites Wikipedia for much of its information, possibly leading to a WP:CIRCULAR/WP:CITOGENESIS situation.

Because none of that sentence is supported, I'm going to delete the whole thing for now and close the edit request. If you come up with a good source, you can reopen this request and also feel free to ping me. Best of luck. Xan747 ✈️ 🧑‍✈️ 16:41, 15 August 2023 (UTC)