Talk:Bonfire toffee

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Did you know... that bonfire toffee is brittle, dark toffee associated with Halloween and Bonfire Night in the United Kingdom?

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Country[edit]

Anybody want to tell us what country this is in? Cheers, JackyR 17:18, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And what black treakle is? BirdValiant 00:56, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Treacle is British English for molasses. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

It's not called Bonfire Toffee, it's called Treacle Toffee. I'd distinctly doubt the veracity of this, since treacle toffee's been available all year around for as long as I can remember, and I've never known it to be particularly associated with bonfire night (OTOH, if it were being associated with Christmas ...) 7rin (talk) 11:13, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My experience, growing up in a suburb north of Manchester, was that Bonfire Toffee - yes, treacle toffee - was only ever associated with Bonfire Night as Bonfire is common to both. I left Manchester in 1965 at age 19 and over the years up to then I don't remember ever hearing of Halloween, let alone anyone making treacle toffee to celebrate it. OldBoyGeoff (talk) 12:41, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It IS called bonfire toffee around the time of November 5th can be bought as 'bonfire toffee' from shops that sell jar sweets throughout the UK. It is referred to as treacle toffee during other times of the year. However, some people do make a distinction in calling a brittle type toffee 'bonfire toffee' and a caramel type toffee 'treacle toffee' but this is not universal.

I've never known it as cinder toffee - cinder toffee is more traditionally used to describe honeycomb toffee and does not have treacle in it. Redcore4 (talk) 18:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Each individual's experiences or recollections about when it's available or what names are appropriate really don't matter on Wikipedia. What matters are verifiable citations to neutral, third-party published sources. Those names are culled from just such published sources, and properly footnoted with inline citations. If there is a discrepancy in the article, then I strongly encourage everyone to find a neutral, third-party published source that disputes the citations already given here. The dispute over names should be noted in the text or in a footnote (as appropriate), and inline citations to the source included. It is not enough to establish that something called "cinder toffee" also exists; that merely says there is one name for two different kinds of candy. What is needed is a source that says "cinder toffee only means honeycomb toffee." Merely showing there are multiple names does not mean the existing citations are wrong; inferring such would constitute original research. - Tim1965 (talk) 21:09, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cinder toffee is something completely different to bonfire toffee... it is only the honeycomb toffee. As for a source... you need only google recipes for cinder toffee and bonfire toffee to see that the two are completely different. Both multiple recipe source and actual commercial products available in the UK demonstrate it to be incorrect. At present there is no evidence to support the existing citation. If we are to apply your argument, then I could go through every single page of Wikipedia no matter what it was talking about from science to the arts and claim that every single entry is also known as 'cinder toffee' and unless you can prove it otherwise then it would have to remain even when everybody viewing the page knows it to be wrong.

conversions[edit]

The conversions between units on this article are inconsistent in which units and systems they convert to and are not always present. I can't fix them while on this kindle browser. 149.241.72.51 (talk) 18:17, 15 January 2014 (UTC) (Thryduulf)[reply]

Citation for "Northern UK prefer sweets darker in colour"[edit]

I checked page 6 of the cited book [Food Colour and Appearance|https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=U_TpBwAAQBAJ], and there is nothing about Northern preferences. quorn3000 (talk) 12:19, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]