Talk:Bitter Suites to Succubi
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cds aren't test pressed... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.126.207 (talk) 18:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
How is this an EP?[edit]
As has been detailed in edit descriptions, this is a studio album. It is studio album-length (so not an EP) and the tracks were recorded in a studio, intended to appear on this release, so it is not a compilation album either. Lachlan Foley (talk) 09:20, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- But V Empire and From the Cradle to Enslave are album-length studio recordings too, and you seem happy with those as EPs... Honestly, it IS a kind of grey area - I do see where you're coming from - but in terms of Cradle's particular catalogue, it makes more sense to term this as an EP. It was always explicitly described as a stop-gap release - the band were very up-front about that, and Dani being on film calling it "essentially" an EP is not irrelevant, as you seemed to claim the other day. I think that guy's opinion on what it is rather counts for something. It's a handful of new (at the time) songs, with a few extra bits and pieces. It's not part of the sequence of full-on albums - it's just a rattle bag. There was Midian and there was Damnation and a Day, and this was just an almost-throwaway thing in between. That's no reflection on the quality - personally I really like it and I think it gets overlooked. But while technically it may be right to call it a studio album, in this particular case it's more accurate to consider it an EP. That make sense? And not that this is a particularly essential point, but it's been listed as an EP since well before I started working on these pages, and I got here in 2006. So you're the first person in at least six years to have a problem with it.
- While we're here, do you also want to talk about Midnight in the Labyrinth? Again, similar argument. It's not part of the main sequence of full-on studio albums. So while technically again, you may be right to call it a studio album, it's also an inessential side-release, entirely built out of old songs (despite their being new versions). So there again, "compilation" is more helpful and accurate than "album", I think. No?
- Anyone else have any thoughts? Richard BB, Stormie, are you listening? Cardinal Wurzel (talk) 09:51, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- While we're here, do you also want to talk about Midnight in the Labyrinth? Again, similar argument. It's not part of the main sequence of full-on studio albums. So while technically again, you may be right to call it a studio album, it's also an inessential side-release, entirely built out of old songs (despite their being new versions). So there again, "compilation" is more helpful and accurate than "album", I think. No?
- But V Empire and From the Cradle to Enslave are album-length studio recordings too, and you seem happy with those as EPs... Honestly, it IS a kind of grey area - I do see where you're coming from - but in terms of Cradle's particular catalogue, it makes more sense to term this as an EP. It was always explicitly described as a stop-gap release - the band were very up-front about that, and Dani being on film calling it "essentially" an EP is not irrelevant, as you seemed to claim the other day. I think that guy's opinion on what it is rather counts for something. It's a handful of new (at the time) songs, with a few extra bits and pieces. It's not part of the sequence of full-on albums - it's just a rattle bag. There was Midian and there was Damnation and a Day, and this was just an almost-throwaway thing in between. That's no reflection on the quality - personally I really like it and I think it gets overlooked. But while technically it may be right to call it a studio album, in this particular case it's more accurate to consider it an EP. That make sense? And not that this is a particularly essential point, but it's been listed as an EP since well before I started working on these pages, and I got here in 2006. So you're the first person in at least six years to have a problem with it.