Talk:Bill Noël

Close paraphrasing concerns

This article includes content closely paraphrased from the copyrighted Handbook of Texas Online. For an example, compare the following: The source says:

In 1956, Noël and Rodman founded the American Bank of Commerce in Odessa and held controlling interests in banks in San Angelo, Lubbock, San Antonio, Big Spring and Noël's native Fort Worth. Noël became a director of the board of Texas Commerce Bancshares of Houston after three Noël-Rodman banks (American Bank of Commerce in Odessa, San Angelo National Bank, and Citizens National Bank in Lubbock) merged with Texas Commerce in 1973. He served as director of Texas Commerce Bancshares until his death.

The article says (bolding on content that is found verbatim in the source, alhough a few words have been omitted in those runs):

They founded the American Bank of Commerce in Odessa in 1956 and held controlling interests in banks in five other Texas cities—San Angelo, Lubbock, San Antonio, Big Spring, and Fort Worth. Noël became a director of the board of Texas Commerce Bancshares of Houston after three Noël-Rodman banks (American Bank of Commerce in Odessa, San Angelo National Bank, and Citizens National Bank in Lubbock) merged with Texas Commerce in 1973; he served until 1987.

The source says:

Noël worked eighteen-hour days as Trebol's tool pusher, pumper, and production supervisor. The company drilled fifty-two producing wells before hitting their first dry hole.

The article says:

He worked eighteen-hour days as Trebol's tool pusher, pumper, and production supervisor. The company drilled fifty-two producing wells before it struck the first dry hole.

The source says:

In 1957 the Noël-Rodman partnership founded West Texas Gathering Company, which purchased, treated, and transported gas for resale to home customers of the El Paso and Pioneer Natural Gas companies. The partners also drilled the discovery wells in two Upton County oilfields:...

The article says:

In 1957, the Noël-Rodman partnership founded the Texas Gathering Company, which purchased, treated, and transported natural gas for resale to home customers of the El Paso and Pioneer Natural Gas companies. The partners also drilled discovery wells in two Upton County oilfields.

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The article needs to be checked in addition to ensure that the primary content contributor did not closely follow on other sources. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:59, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Umlaut in name?

I don't remember seeing Bill Noel's name written with an umlaut in newspaper mentions of his company "Rodman and Noel", and received this answer from query to a frield who grew up in McCamey and worked his whole career in the West Texas oilfields:

I knew him well [and his wife] and he never had an umlaut. He was a good-looking guy and made a fortune in the old McCamey wells along with his partner E.G. Earl Rodman (Rodman Supply).

Such hearsay evidence is not strong enough to override the referenced Handbook of Texas (which styles the name as Noël), so I'll take it up with them before making an edit here. Would appreciate any other comments on the no-umlaut issue, however. Casey (talk) 22:31, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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