Talk:Bill Dauterive

This article was nominated for deletion on 4 October 2014 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

This article was nominated for deletion on 8 September 2014 (UTC). The result of the discussion was no consensus.

This article was nominated for deletion on 20 July 2009 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

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DRV[edit]

DRV next year!--T. Anthony (talk) 06:21, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

the first step is writing a section here about. it's truly absurd to have the redirect when i he is only mentioned within some of the paragraphs. This will make it much easier for people coming here to judge the merits of a separate article. TA, I assume you have the knowledge to do this right. Incidentally, I would advise against taking anything to Deletion review unless there is a really good case--the best way to show it is an article draft in user space. And I am not sure in any case that a change from a redirect back to an article is not a purely editorial change that does not need deletion review--though the article had better be such as could withstand criticism, and the proposed change discussed on the main article talk page first. DGG (talk) 03:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You make some good points, I'll have to mull this over.--T. Anthony (talk) 05:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I started a userspace " but I'm not sure if it's what you meant.--T. Anthony (talk) 08:30, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Revive or DRV?[edit]

I haven't done as much on Bill Dauterive as I intended. Still here's arguments for revive.

Articles on fictional characters are allowed.
Dauterive has been a main character on a show that lasted for thirteen years. Compare that to say Kit Cloudkicker or Gogo Dodo. (Both of whom I liked as a kid, but come on)
The version I've made does site books and news sources. I have not found much real-world notability, as of yet, but he is used as an example in a dating/poetry book. (Although it appears to be self-published[1]. For book references in general[2])
All the other main characters have articles, see Category:King of the Hill characters.
There are links to the character in about a hundred articles.

Here's thoughts on DRV

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Dauterive was closed in four days with only two days of, ultimately very little, discussion.
There were two voices for and two against. Both side appear to have had a weak case.

That's all for now.--T. Anthony (talk) 02:53, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I got no response, but I decided to revive for now. I will take it to DRV if anyone objects to the reviving.--T. Anthony (talk) 05:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bill of Sales[edit]

I must admit I used to interpret the episode a bit different than Hank and Peggy's vision of what happened. To me Bill is attracted to Peggy, but once they were alone in a different town and she acted friendly to him he freaked. I think he wants it to be a "pure and chaste from afar" type thing as she's married to his best friend and her no longer being repulsed by him scared him on that. So once she's insulting him it makes him less "scared." Watching it again though I'm not so sure. Unfortunately they don't do any commentary of any kind after the season 2 DVD so I guess I'll never know.--T. Anthony (talk) 09:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

picture[edit]

how come we dont have a picture on here?

Dishonorable Discharge[edit]

I'm curious why he wasn't discharged for all the the things he did (getting arrested, pretending to be homosexual in the Hottyz episode, etc.) Campbell Drive (talk) 02:52, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple issues?[edit]

It feels like this article should have a "multiple issues" tag. It cites almost no sources for the content on Bill himself. Most of the citations are for the actor who voices Bill. Providing episode links would be a good start for many of the article's claims and "for instance" remarks. From the Personality section,

"Hank once, while telling Peggy that a lawn makes a man and gives him a purpose, says "Without my lawn, I am Bill," which disgusts Peggy as the thought of being with Bill nauseates her to no end."

Which episode does the quote come from? There are numerous similar situations in the article.

Also, the article seems to have a lot of opinion. The lead calls Bill "clinically depressed". Maybe I missed an episode that supports this, but simply "depressed" seems more accurate, and is supported a bit by the existing (un-sourced) quote "I'm so depressed, I can't even blink." The intro of the clinical depression article says, "Major (clinical) depression significantly affects a person's family and personal relationships, work or school life, sleeping and eating habits, and general health," which doesn't actually seem to apply to Bill with the exception of eating habits and general health--note "and" is used and not "or". The quote above also seems like opinion. Peggy is nauseous when she thinks about being with Bill? Does she, say, cover her mouth and look like she's going to puke, at some point? 67.158.43.41 (talk) 06:31, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dauterive vs. D'Haute Rive[edit]

Has anybody seen in writing if D'Haute Rive had been anglicized as Dauterive in Bill's extended name? Granted the odds for this are low as the number of episodes addressing Bill's Louisiana roots are few, but maybe there's a rogue script or two out there. I suppose that we could address "de la Tour" vs. "delatour" at the same time.

I would think that "D'Haute Rive" would be incorrect in the first place, since the "h" in "haut(e)" is aspirated, making the correct phrase "de haute rive", no contraction. But the name of real person Jim Dauterive seems to dispute this. Anyone know of documents describing his heritage? Mapsax (talk) 13:31, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In the episode, "A Beer Can Named Desire", we see the name displayed in the wrought-iron gate at the entrance to the Dauterive family estate in Louisiana. It is spelled "D'Hautrive". This settles two questions. One is the spelling of the original name, the other is that it has clearly been Anglicized by the time Bill is born, or in his branch of the family. Best regardsTheBaron0530 (talk) 15:42, 18 April 2017 (UTC)theBaron0530[reply]