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Actual Debut[edit]

The actual debut wasn't a February 22 episode of World Championship Wrestling. It actually debuted on a February 14, 1986 Florida show called Battle of The Belts II where Ric Flair defended the NWA World Title against Barry Windham. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.106.110.147 (talk) 20:54, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Move[edit]

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Closed as no consensus to move.

From Big Gold Belt to Big Gold Championship..... NXT Fan (talk) 07:00, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose from me seeing as this isn't a Championship its a Belt.--SteamIron 10:48, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This article is not about a championship. This article is about the belt, which has represented multiple championships. oknazevad talk 16:43, 10 March 2011(UTC)
Oppose per above comments. The article is about the belt that has represented multiple championships. It isn't an actual championship itself.^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 22:36, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. WWE owns the Big Gold thing, its history, its heritage, and its definition. if WWE dislikes the term "belt", we should reflect this. WCW Fan 2000 (talk) 07:25, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Its a belt not a Championship. The belt it self has represented many championship but has never be a Championship in itself.--SteamIron 07:50, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But under current WWE terminology the word "belt" has been replaced by "championship:. And the belt/championship/whatever is owned by WWE, adn that's how they refer to it. WCW Fan 2000 (talk) 07:53, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Still this is a Belt not a championship and it doesnt matter what wwe calls it they have no say here.--SteamIron 08:24, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While you're right Dcheagle, its not even about that. What it ultimately comes down to is that this is not the WWE encyclopedia. We are not WWE centric as we try to maintain a neutral point of view. An example of this is that while WWE removes all references pertaining to the WWF trademark, we do not. Thus there was never a valid point to NXT Fan's or WCW Fan 2000's argument - two accounts that are clearly operated by a single user.^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 02:13, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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WWE history claims[edit]

WWE claims they own the history of the Big Gold Belt? That's hilarious. They may own all the video tape history and they own WCW which the belt used to represent, but for 7 1/2 years it represented the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. WWE does not own that. MrNWA4Life 10:11, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, they (correctly) claim they own the copyright and trademark to the design (which was owned by Crockett, and WCW as their successor, not the NWA) and the WCW title history since 1991. And there's an easier way to sign posts that won't trigger an unsigned post bot: sign with four tildes at the end (these things ~) oknazevad (talk) 14:59, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They actually don't own the copyright and/or trademark to the actual original design. The reason they added the WWE logo to the main plate in 2003 was so that they could copyright that particular design of the belt.^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 18:38, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think you may be right. Now that you mention it, I remember reading that part of the reason for the changed designs of the then WWF Championship and IC title belts during the Attitude Era was that the previous designs weren't trademarked or copyrighted and many independents (including the early ECW) were using substantially similar designs (such as the ECW TV title when RVD first won it). That said, the point that the WWE does own the WCW title lineage is correct. oknazevad (talk) 19:13, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

nWo[edit]

The original plan was to have the nWo as a second promotion that would run nWo Nitro while WCW ran Thunder, similar to WWE having RAW ECW & Smackdown as seperate shows with their own titles & roster. Now this never happened, but shouldnt some mention be made to the nWo branding the title with their letters? Even the WCW World Title history should make mention of that occurring. 24.24.231.104 (talk) 01:43, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Big Gold, not The Big Gold Belt[edit]

I'm surprised that it's listed here as Big Gold Belt. It's always referred to as "Big Gold," and as such (even if it's not the technical title), should be referred to as such at least in the title, right? Like how a wrestler's real name may be Michael Hickenbottom, but the title lists them as Shawn Michaels. Thoughts? SalvadorZombie (talk) 19:25, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources use "the Big Gold Belt" pretty constantly. To say "it's always referred to as Big Gold" is erroneous. oknazevad (talk) 20:13, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]