Talk:Behavior/Archives/2013

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The lead in on this was just too much

... and I'm perhaps too tired to have acted so boldly, but was shocked by the state of this article "stub" as I found it. Maybe too it was the multiple IN-YOUR-FACE tags screaming in a stack.
   Purusing history, I went way back though luckily found an iterim version that had lots of meat. However, that appears to have drawn the essay tag, so I've just recorded that below for others to decide what is worth keeping, etcetera. That material was essayish, and you all left a essay tag hang in shame on the page forever and day too long... months after the originator had himself deleted the material! Ditto Wikify... all dating back to three edits between 1-3 September 2007... to 8 March 2008, but the tags stayed! Oops!

My Trail @ Behavior/Archives/2013 (edit talk links history):

  1. this located the big cut in material on Revision as of 03:27, 8 March 2008 by an anom (65.31.142.33 (talk · contribs)) who claimed to have added it. It was added by an anom in the 1-3 September 2007 timeframe, nonetheless, some of this looks to show some promise, and should at least be data-mined for ideas by someone who knows more psych than I remember these days (daze).

  2. this diff was an iterim point I just saved... it shows the "antiquity" shall we say of some of the stuff I put back as annotated in the above section.
       Other data states (This wasn't what I expected to see! Oops) were apparently recorded in the history: here, though I maybe just overwrote a couple manipulating text paras...

  3. and this was the final edit of the Genesis edits removed in (1) above... This IP was 65.31.133.107 (talk · contribs) and the Revision as of 01:29, 3 September 2007. This appears to be the same anom as made the annotation in the foregoing section.

  4. now this is the diff between the four edits I did taking the article back and the revert Revision as of 15:44, 18 July 2008 by StaticGull (talk · contribs).

  5. Whether that 18 July version was salvageable or not, my actions were predicated on what was probably a bad impression of the lead sentences... and my own weariness. There is obviously some material of meritorious nature in there, but not a lot from what I can see of the diffs. Good luck to all! // FrankB 07:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Should this be spelled "Behaviour" or behavior? TallNapoleon (talk) 06:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Redirects here but isn't mentioned anywhere. Imagine Reason (talk) 22:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Same goes for Deportment —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.115.246 (talk) 22:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I have a similar complaint - I was looking up deportment as something which is taught in schools, good conduct or good behaviour. There doesn't seem to be an article for it, and this article doesn't make mention of any of the numerous terms which refer to it.Gymnophoria (talk) 16:34, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

School

Wasn't there a time when "Deportment" was a subject in school that a student could get graded on? Perhaps that should be mentioned. PatrickLMT (talk) 14:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

What Kind of System?

In the opening statement how do we mean system as equatable or comparable to an organism? (is it an ecological system that we are referring to?) what does this mean? what kind of system? pertinent to what? Stevenmitchell (talk) 08:45, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

An organism is a biological system (or a collection of individual components, including cells and organs). Wikipedia is just being generic in defining things. A system can refer to a social system (a society or culture), an ecological system, a biological system, or an artificial system. When Wikipedia mentions that systems can have behavior, it's generally talking about the collective responses and mannerisms of a system to it's environment. Nashhinton (talk) 00:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Removed 'human biome project' reference

The fact that something 'might' be true does not make it suitable for a short summary like this. The biological study of behavior could fill a library - a single research question like this one does not belong here. There is a main page for the topic, where such things can be discussed. MarkinBoston (talk) 22:41, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

what?

Hi, I removed the material below, which while important, did not seem to fit the category of a basic characterization of the term Behavior, but would be very useful if linked to what I have now added as basic content. Looking forward to response to this entry.

Sean Courtney, Alverno College

Deleted material behavior is to be believed false In sociology, behavior is considered as having no meaning, being not directed at other people and thus is the most basic human action.

this is pretty bad. why does meaninglessness and indirection of behavior imply mean that it's basic?

im going to do something about this

Humans evaluate the acceptablity of behavior using social norms and regulate behavior by means of social control.

This statement comes from a limited view of behavior that does not include the innnate qualities of human nature. This also seems to suggest that humans consciously mull over nearly everything they do. Once again, this ignores behavior as the consequence of instinct...editing is needed.

I removed the following, not because it seems incorrect but that it seems out of place in a section that is very short and says very little about the concept of behavior as applied to humans (and animals). If the piece/section were substantially longer, these additional pieces might seem more in place. Hope this is ok

Behavior as used in computer science is an anthropomorphic construct that assigns “life” to the activities carried out by a computer, computer application, or computer code in response to stimuli, such as user input. Also, "a behavior" is a reusable block of computer code or script that, when applied to an object (computer science), especially a graphical one, causes it to respond to user input in meaningful patterns or to operate independently, as if alive.

In environmental modeling and especially in hydrology, a behavioral model means a model that is acceptably consistent with observed natural processes, i.e. that simulates well, for example, observed river discharge. It is a key concept of the so-called Generalized Likelihood Uncertainty Estimation (GLUE) methodology to quantify how uncertain environmental predictions are.

Perhaps... I just went back over a year to find it an put it back in... but then did that with the whole article as well in several successive stages. My treatment was to begin a new section with it, outside psych. // FrankB 06:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Untitled

From the article:

In reality, all behavior may well be some mixture of those two types, even in relatively simple organisms...

This needs to be made more specific, and justified with cites, if it is to go back in the article. The Anome

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Removed some wikipedia markup that tried, I think, to vary the sentence "American OR UK spelling: behavior OR behaviour", depending on which word was looked up. This code was broken, so I removed it. It doesn't seem to me to be a big deal whether or not this phrase is included -- the meaning of "behavior" is clear no matter how it's spelled. Is this common practice (to indicate UK or American spelling, depending on which is used in the article)? deadbarnacle

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Removed a remark which didn't seem to have any significance to the article, despite all thematic connections.

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There are some pretty big editing problems on this page. I know nothing about this subject, someone else should fix it.