Talk:Aubrey de Vere II

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de Vere notes[edit]

Aubrey II was an active member of the royal administration when he was killed by a London mob in May 1141, so it is very unlikely that he was born before about 1080, after his father Aubrey I had been established on his English estates in eastern England. DeAragon 10:48, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

There is no surviving evidence for the name of Aubrey's daughter who married Roger de Ramis. This daughter's existence is only deduced from a reference to her sons as the "true nephews" of Aubrey III de Vere in the 1141 charter of Empress Matilda which gave the title of earl to Aubrey. Her name could not have been Adeliza/Alice, for his daughter of that name had two husbands, both known and neither a de Ramis. DeAragon 22:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

The Collectanea Topographica Et Genealogica Volume IV (1837) is riddled with errors on the aristocracy of England in the eleventh and twelfth centuries. Several so-called Vere daughters were erroneously named by 18th- and 19th-century sources, even one (Johanna) listed by the College of Arms, which seems reputable and scholarly. There were several lineages that took the Vere surname, including a minor aristocratic family in Lincolnshire that appears to have been unrelated or only distantly related to the family of Aubrey de Vere, and perhaps some of these females were members of that family rather than the earls of Oxford.DeAragon 17:06, 6 August 2017 (UTC)