Talk:Aruba/Archive 1

Archive 1

Spoken version

I didn't have much to do, so I created a spoken word version of this artical, it's my first attempt at a spoken word artical. It took longer to make then I thought it would. I hope people find it useful. --dirtyliberal 05:36, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

External links restructured

I have put some new links in the section and organized it as well. There may be too many links in there, but I think at least it's nicely organized. Some links may fit into a more specific article text on the subject. Like e.g. Central Bank had a lot of critics in the government, and Setar was recently made semi-private, getting an important competitor in the form of Digicel. I also removed some obvious personal links ('one couples guide to aruba') and replaced them with more established local tourism guides. Blonkm 14:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Motto

According to everything I've found on the web, the motto "One Happy Island" isn't actually a national motto, it only appears on taxi license plates. I've removed the motto; feel free to revert if I'm wrong. Pruneau^T 20:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

it should not be called a motto, I think, but there is an official message communicated through the Aruba Touorism Authority. Since Aruba's tourism is an important economic factor, this message is used in all kinds of communication, not just on taxi's. In fact there is recently a new 'slogan' (which I would prefer to call it) developed. This slogan is, however, not official yet, so I will not mention it until it's announced. Blonkm 15:05, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Proposed WikiProject

There is now a proposed WikiProject for the Caribbean area, including Aruba, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Caribbean. Interested parties should add their names there so we can determine if there is enough interest to start such a project in earnest. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Remove sentence

I removed the following sentence because it is not grammatical and it is unreferenced:

Islanders can often speak four or more languages and their culture and customs.

-- Beland 01:19, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Carnival/Karnaval

Do Arubans really call it "Carnival"? We celebrate "Karnaval" here on Bonaire. Kww 23:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Carnival is the "English" name of this festival. In the Netherlands (the European part of the kingdom), and thus in Dutch (one of the official languages of Aruba) this festival is called "Carnaval" or like on Bonaire "Karnaval". Peter Maas\^talk 17:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

no disputes...

how come nobody ever disputed this occupation of south american /central american territory ? no minister said anything political about it ever ? Amoruso 01:36, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't see why. It's just been sooo long ago now. And the 'rumors' about Venezuela being interested to occupy Aruba are just that: rumors. Blonkm 14:05, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

True, it has indeed been so long ago and their are not territorial disputed with other countries (the Venezuela issue was indeed a rumour). The movement toward full independence by 1996 was postponed upon the request of Aruba's prime minister, Nelson O. Oduber, in 1990. It was decided to postpone Aruba's independence date until the people decide otherwise through a referendum. So I don't think you can speak about "occupation" in this case. Aruba is now an independent, self-governing member state of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Peter Maas\^talk 17:50, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

arubaplaza

The link to arubaplaza.com has been put in and taken out several times. I have looked at it, and feel that, while it is an advertiser supported site, it is mainly an informational site and is appropriate to the article. Before I revert it back in, I'd like to discuss it. Kww 17:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Aruba not North American

Aruba is accreting to the South American plate, leaving the Caribbean plate. It isn't on, or even particularly near, North America.

http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2007/2006TC002028.shtml

http://www.ig.utexas.edu/bolivar/summary/index.htm

You should look again at your reference http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49regin.htm . It doesn't include Aruba as a part of North America either. It groups it into "Latin America and the Caribbean".

I think the best description of the "National Geographic" reference is "an error." Kww 12:16, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, you are somewhat mistaken. Neither of your links indicate specifically/explicitly that Aruba is a part of South America, only that it may lie on the South American plate or elaborate about its physiography (e.g, part of the Leeward Antilles). That is not in dispute, but the West Indies are conventionally grouped with North America. In the UN link provided, Aruba is included in the Caribbean and a note further elaborates: "The continent of North America (003) comprises Northern America (021), Caribbean (029), and Central America (013)." And the National Geographic reference is certainly not an error. As well, this map of North America from the Atlas of Canada indicates the same (as opposed to that of South America, which does not). Until you can provide reliable sources as I have, it is you who may be in error and need to look again. Corticopia 14:31, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

The UN reference is just invalid, since the UN geographical scheme clearly indicates that it was created for statistical propuses and that the inclusion of any member state in a particular subregion doesn't mean anything. Kww, I'd recommend you to read the article about the UN geographical scheme. AlexCovarrubias ^{( Talk? )} 15:52, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Your map of "North America" also includes Venezuela and Columbia, so it isn't much of a reference, and you can clearly see Aruba at the top of the map of South America. Being on the South American plate puts Aruba in South America ... there is no suitable substitute criterion. Reverting your ludicrous claim.Kww 19:55, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

It is clear you are willfully blind to clear references; the Atlas of Canada maps clearly delineate what is where but, of course, other references say the same thing. As well, your assertion that being on x plate puts it on x is nonsensical: if that were true, half of Russia would be part of North America. Anyhow, unless compelled otherwise, I will be correcting your ludicrous reversions in due course. Corticopia 00:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

History is different from Papiamento

There is a discreptincy between this page on Papiamento on the demographics of Aruba

This page states T"he Dutch took control almost two centuries after the Spanish, and left the Arawaks to farm and graze livestock, and used the island as a source of meat for other Dutch possessions in the Caribbean. The Arawak heritage is stronger on Aruba than on most Caribbean islands."

While the Papiamento page states "In 1634, the Dutch-based West India Company (WIC) took possession of the islands, deporting most of the small remaining Arawak and Spanish population to the continent, and turned them into the hub of the Dutch slave trade between Africa and the Caribbean"

These two seem is state two completely different things.Can anyone clear this up without it becoming a revert war? Monre (talk) 01:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

There isn't a big discrepancy (only 65 years or so). The islands were claimed by the Spanish in 1499, the Dutch took over in 1634. More Arawaks were left on Aruba than on Bonaire and Curacao, and that is indeed visible in the population today. The Arawak influence on Aruba is quite strong, and from appearance, people would describe most of Aruba's population as mestizo, not mulatto like most islands. I'll fix the "almost two centuries."Kww (talk) 01:34, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Photos

Can somebody download photos of Alto Visto church and University of Aruba to Wikimedia Commons?Mheidegger (talk) 13:50, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Photo of sunset

Just want to point out that the sunset picture has nothing particular todo with Aruba, it can be a sunset anywhere in the world. It's nice though. /80.216.90.149 (talk) 18:24, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

tourism boycotts and such

did Aruba ever take a hit in tourism from the Natalee Holloway murder? I know lots of people were promoting a boycott a while back. As a reader I'm curios to know how the tourism numbers have fared over the last 5 years. Is there a graph anywhere that might show number of tourists over the last 10 or 20 years? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.38.208.30 (talk) 20:42, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

What does this mean?

I find the following quote from the text (section History, second paragraph, last sentence.) rather illogical:

In another letter he described a small island inhabited by very large people, which the expedition thought was not inhabited.

Were "the large people" not "inhabited"?? Did "the expedition" first or continuously believe the island not to be inhabited, while Vespucci found out they were wrong? Please eludicate!-- JoergenB (talk) 17:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I also found this to be very strange. Marzolian (talk) 03:19, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Aruban florin

Is there a list of "world's smallest countries with own currency"? Should Aruba be on it, if not at the top? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Why would the Aruban florin be higher then the Gibraltar pound? Nil Einne (talk) 20:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

BIAS

is it me or is this section:

In 1515, the first Spanish Governor of this region, Alonso de Ojeda, who married a native American, had the entire population transported to Hispaniola where they all had to learn the fifteenth century vulgar "Spanish" spoken there and work in the copper mines; most were allowed to return when the mines were tapped out.

The Dutch, who took control almost two centuries later, left the Arawaks, who spoke the "broken Spanish"

sounds VERY BIASED. What makes their spanish to be vulgar? vulgar means "indecent; obscene; lewd". this sounds like an opinion, NOT A FACT. someone please rewrite this as it has a undertone of bias or superiority in it. Adreamtonight 05:43, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

It's you. The references to "vulgar Spanish" and "broken Spanish" are quotes, and are probably references to one of the predecessors of Papiamento (which is a fine language, but not good Spanish). Kww 10:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

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those literate in English beyond a certain age recognize that "vulgar" does not mean what adream claims. "vulgar" in modern 'everyman' usage does indeed usually refer to the distasteful, however its older, and still used, meaning is "common".71.31.154.4 (talk) 21:00, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

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Vulgar doesn't mean "indecent; obscene; lewd" in this instance, it means common, or of the common people (as in Vulgar Latin). A dictionary is not the equivalent to knowledge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.42.212.199 (talk) 21:36, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Who's that

Hello fellows!

Can anybody identify this female singer? The image was taken on Aruba. Thanks. --High Contrast (talk) 10:42, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Papiamento inconsistency

This article says, "The official languages are Dutch and – since 2003 – Papiamento." The Papiamento article states, "In the Netherlands Antilles, Papiamentu was made an official language on March 7, 2007. After its dissolution, the language's official status was confirmed in the Caribbean Netherlands, until January 1, 2011; since then it has been recognised as a language on Bonaire only." I'm not sure if this article is just six years out of date. Henry^Flower 04:10, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Aruba hasn't been a part of the Netherlands Antilles since 1986, and is not a part of the Caribbean Netherlands: it's just a part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands that is in the Caribbean. Yes, it's highly confusing. When I lived on Bonaire, I wound up explaining it to guests on a daily basis.—Kww(talk) 04:30, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. it has been recognised as a language on Bonaire only seems ambiguous: it could mean 'Bonaire is the only place where it is recognised as a language', or 'Bonaire is the only place in the Caribbean Netherlands where it is recognised. Do you know of any offical information as to its status in Aruba? Henry^Flower 13:20, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

I've tweaked the language in Papiamentu. http://books.google.com/books?id=4SMLb6hKv4YC&lpg=PT276&dq=aruba%20official%20language%20Papiamento&pg=PT276#v=onepage&q=aruba%20official%20language%20Papiamento&f=false is as good of a source as you are going to find.—Kww(talk) 17:27, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Cheers. :) 13:56, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Isn't the official name of Aruba "Country of Aruba"?

With Aruba being a country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands just like Curaçao, shouldn’t Aruba be called the Country of Aruba just like its 'brethren' the Country of Curaçao or this is not the official name of the island as set-up by the regional government. -- sion8 (talk) 7:06 20 Jul 2013 (UTC)

No more than we would typically talk about "country of France" or "nation of Canada". Aruba is described as a country in the article.—Kww(talk) 07:54, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Well the article for Curaçao has it being called ‘Country of Curaçao’ also since Aruba, Curaçao, the Netherlands and Sint Maarten have the designation of country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands gives me some evidence that those other parts of this nation-state would have the designation of ‘Country of’; similar to how U.S. states or provinces of Canada are called ‘State of’ or ‘Provence of’. Also according to the article titled Constituent country [[1]] the Dutch government designated these divisions as “landen” which they translated as "countries" -- sion8 (talk) 6:21 20 July 2013 (UTC)

The official name of Aruba is simply Aruba (just like the name of Curaçao is simply Curaçao).

The definition is in chapter 1, article 1, paragraph 1 of the Statuut voor het Koninkrijk der Nederlanden. It reads: Het Koninkrijk omvat de landen Nederland, Aruba, Curaçao en Sint Maarten. (in English: The kingdom comprises the countries Nederland, Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten.)

Although the text qualifies the four entities as countries (landen), it does not include the word country (land) in their respective names.

Hope this clarifies the issue. Jahoe (talk) 11:45, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Actually, Curaçao is the only one that writes "Land Curaçao" in its constitution ([2]), with a capital 'L', implying that it is part of the name. I think that's why it has been translated as Country of Curaçao and taken as the full name. As far as I know, the other countries don't write "land" with a capital and thus has not been considered to be part of the name.  thayts t  12:32, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Notables

I've removed (again) the list of "Notables" from this article. They're not established as having any meaningful or specific connection to the subject, and universally have no references. The list is unencyclopedic and trivial. Per WP:BLP, living people (most of them) must have references, and none do. -- Mikeblas (talk) 13:11, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

External links modified

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I have just added archive links to one external link on Aruba. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/20130215045034/http://www.aruba.com/ExploretheIsland/IslandFacts/law.aspx to http://www.aruba.com/ExploretheIsland/IslandFacts/law.aspx

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History

There is something wrong with the following sentence, at least grammatically: Movement toward full independence by 1996 was halted at Aruba's request in 1990. The Gnome 03:22, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Why? It means "the [movement to achieve independency by 1996] was halted [at Aruba's request in 1990]". Where's the problem? —Nightstallion (?) 13:01, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Why does the history of submarine U156 in Aruba contradict with the wikipedia entry for the submarine? Under the U156 wiki entry it says the ship was sank off the coast of Barbados and everyone died. In the Aruba history it says it was sunk when the crew was sunbathing and one person survived. What's going on here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.190.43.106 (talk) 13:27, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

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As a schoolmate in the late 1960's of a Aruban, I know there was considerable civil unrest which, I believe, leant impetus to the move towards independence. If this were a travel brouchure, I'd understand the omission. As it is supposedly "history" it is disappointingly censored, sanitized and whitewashed, IMHO.71.31.154.4 (talk) 21:08, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

All of this is wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.42.100.178 (talk) 13:31, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Banking

Aruba and the dutch antillas are skimming again in banking, alleging HIGHER costs due extra regulatory requirements that where allready in place 20+ years ago in any of the meriat banking industries in the Caribean, for private banking (private banks are fastly more strict in their security requirements then public banks).

This is another case of beaurocratic subsidianism using the United States ´regulatory requirements´ in excuse, with it´s only real improvements, if you can call this so (according to them), further forms of extreme fascism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.88.238.143 (talk) 14:47, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Natalee Holloway

I removed the Natalee Holloway reference from the short summary of Aruba's history in the main page. Not only is this totally US-centric (it hasn't been "in the news" at all outside of the US) but I hardly think the incident is even close to having enough significance that a island with an entire millennium of history should have an entire third of a summary of said history devoted to it. --Jamieli 18:25, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

FWIW: I agree. A sad event but insignificant in a broad view. See Missing white woman syndrome. MH 18:59, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

I removed the Holloway part from Miscellaneous, there are over 200000 unsolved murder cases in the USA, how 'bout we put the names of those missing/murdered people on the main pages of the USA or their states? Dont think so...... Superdude99 17:33, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

I heard someone go missing in New York last month. Quick everyone, everyone lets all boycott New York City!

The idea of a boycott on Aruba- is just as effective as- if the EU threatened to boycott a part of the USA like Puerto Rico. The circumstance for this one missing person was- tragic but really-- get a grip! Why did this school not have a buddy--system implemented for their students before they turned them all loose to get drunk in a bar and go driving all over without any clue of taking care of their student's well being???? Would the school have turned a class full of students loose in any major US city without any supervision? CaribDigita 08:57, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

The Holloway case has certainly put Aruba in the news and, perhaps, generated many page views for this page. A nation of 300,000,000+ people who are interested in this girl, regardless of white woman syndrome, and want to know more about this speck of an island, 100,000 strong, and to not mention this case, is ridiculous. This case has put Aruba on the map. Why not have a mention of it somewhere? User:caminari 01:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC+9)

Well I certainly disagree. The Holloway case has mainly generated considerable attention in the news in the U.S., Aruba and the Netherlands, not in the rest of the world, certainly not as much as in the three mentioned countries. People who are interested in this topic can also visit the page Natalee Holloway, when they use the search function, they can find it easily. This news will fade in people's memories as other news does too. It is not important on a big scale. And for example the Virginia Tech Massacre is also not mentioned on the articles on the United States and Virginia, so I don't see why this topic need coverage in the Aruba article. Peter Maas\^talk 17:28, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I live in Australia, and it's made the news down here, more than once. What was the last thing about Aruba that made news all around the world? This is notable, and should be put back in. Wikipedia isn't here to only focus on the positives. --Commking (talk) 23:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps just a "See also" Entry with a link to the Natalee Holloway article? --Commking (talk) 09:10, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

No, unfortunate as it is, it is simply too insignificant to be covered in a general article like this. --Reinoutr (talk) 18:02, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

The Natalee Holloway article became a Featured Article a few days ago. It meets notability requirements - so who decides it needs to meet "significant" requirements, and what are they exactly, and where are they defined? A link to the article, as a footnote, in "See Also" surely isn't a big deal? I agree it doesn't need any text in the article. --Commking (talk) 18:43, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

It just isn't a significant part of Aruban history. We don't have a See Also in New York City for Kitty Genovese, nor in Death Valley for Charles Manson. Places don't have links to the crimes committed therein.—Kww(talk) 18:57, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

True that it is not a historically significant event, in the long term at least - putting it in the history section would be the wrong place. But to claim that it not significant to Aruba at all is crazy - there was a well publicised call to boycott the island totally for gods sake - plus enough material to sell Aruban newspapers for months and even years on end. I take your point regarding Charles Manson and Kitty Genovese - but I am concerned that ignoring the Natalee Holloway totally is not NPOV (this article is not meant to read like a tourist brochure and focus purely on positives). --Commking (talk) 02:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the article come across as anything but neutral right now. I've got nothing against the Holloway story. If you go look on its talk page, you'll see that I'm listed as one of the editors that actively maintains the article. A See Also is supposed to be directed towards articles that will help improve your understanding of article you are reading, and nothing about the Holloway article does that. It isn't a major part of Aruban history.—Kww(talk) 02:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, what would a reader expect from an article dealing with a country? Information about its history, geography, demographics, stuff like that. If there should be anything about crime, it would be general crime statistics, not something about a single event similar to those happening in other countries all over the world all the time. --Reinoutr (talk) 07:00, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

The article is Aruba - not the rest of the world - events like this do happen all over the world "all the time", but not in Aruba - that's why it's significant. Taking it out of Aruba just because it is common in the USA for example is silly. Just because it's common in other countries does not make it insignificant in Aruba. This was the biggest news item in Aruba for years - but it can't be mentioned, because it's common elsewhere? Putting it in "See Also" will help the reader understand more about Aruba - because it will convey to the reader that Aruba is in effect kinda like a small town, and this was a major incident for them, even if it was not a big deal for everybody else. --Commking (talk) 17:49, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I am sorry, but even the featured article Natalee Holloway does not discuss anywhere the big impact you claim this incident had on Aruba. A link to that article from here will therefore not inform the reader that it is "in effect kinda like a small town, and this was a major incident for them", because that article doesn't say that anywhere (in those words or in any other words for that matter). --Reinoutr (talk) 21:12, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Let me get this straight - A murder of a foreign tourist, in a country with a population of 100,000 is NOT a big deal there? It is NOT notable? I didn't realise Aruba was so dangerous and had such a high murder rate. I suspect this is not true. Can you provide references? --Commking (talk) 23:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Don't twist people's words. No one is arguing that it isn't notable ... the article about it is a featured article. In terms of important events in a country's history, crimes generally don't qualify, so it doesn't warrant mention in this particular article.—Kww(talk) 23:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Most of the work force for the country was ordered to leave work early, with no pay, to help the search effort. IMHO that is quite significant. I strongly feel that this event should at least be noted somewhere on the page.72.188.249.120 (talk) 00:58, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps this subject should be revisited? This is a story that hasn't gone away, and given the claims being made in the international media about the Aruban justice system in the wake of van der Sloot's second murder and subsequent arrest, I think it should probably be addressed here. As it stands, this page looks whitewashed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.125.150.1 (talk) 19:35, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I disagree, while the story is a big deal now, thanks to CNN, in the history of the country itself it's not worthy of mention aside from Joran being a notable Aruban. Should we put Amy Lynn Bradley in this article too?[3] Oh wait, did everyone forget Amy? White American girl, missing off her cruise ship while docked in Aruba in 1998? Last seen at Carlos’ and Charlie’s Bar on the night of their disapearance. Was featured on Dr. Phil? No? I guess because CNN isn't covering it daily anymore it's not notable enough to be included in the article of a country anymore? I think I made my point. --Yankees76 (talk) 15:17, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, maybe it Was and maybe it Wasnt "missing white woman syndrome", but the FACT is, it's "too late" for that argument. The mass media Already gave this case a TON of coverage, with several "updates" and subsequent upticks in coverage in news cycles over the years, cementing it's place in the English speaking world's psyche, and it's the first thing anyone thinks of when you say the word "Aruba" (in the English speaking/thinking/reading/writing part of the population of the planet...this IS the English Wikipedia, no?)

For there to be no mention whatsoever, is just blatant censorship for what looks to be political correctness (what with the incessant mentions and implications of "missing white woman syndrome", "American Exceptionalism", etc., it's pretty obvious the motives are political, NOT academic, scientific, ethical or other.)

• • • TO YANKEES76***

NO you should not also include her or any other person you can pull out of a hat, for the simple reason you already pointed out: nobody knows who Amy is, so, her case, was not, thanks to the mainstream media, embedded into the psyche of the English Speaking/Thinking world to the point where anytime someone says "Aruba" you think "Amy Lynn Bradley" AND VICE VERSA...

To have no mention here just looks silky. Everyone comes here wondering what heck is going on. Then after they come here and find out, then leave feeling ashamed thinking "thank you for the lesson on how to think! now i can be a slightly less horrible person than i was when i came here expecting, due to my deeply seeded racism and ignorance and bigotry that runs through my blood, to see something about Natalee Holloway. Now I know better. Since it is not proper, we shall all, from now on, pretend as if she is NOT the 1st thing we think of when we see or hear "Aruba". We will just censor that part of reality. You know, so people's feelings don't get hurt.

We will just pretend the media didnt go overboard in their coverage and cover up their mistake for them and hide the fact that they were the perpetrators of the "missing white women's syndrome"... Sure, non white women were also going missing, being kidnapped, brutalized, human trafficked, sold into sex slavery, all while the big media turned the other way... But yes, lets help the racist, corrupt, greedy media billionaire companies who rape our minds with peopaganda day in, day out, let's assist them in their crimes against humanity by hiding their activities from the newer generations, the young babies right now that when they grow up will have this information hidden from them thanks to wikipedia editors, and they will have one less warning sign alerting them to be cautious of accepting the media's representations and portrayals as an accurate view and interpretation of reality.

You're just leading the lambs to the slaughter! Just lock the babies in a wolves den, why don't you!

You folks must LOVE missing white woman's syndrome, the way you sit back and allow it to spread, silently, unnoticed, until it's strong and deadly, which is when it will strike... Enigmato (talk) 21:41, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Aruba

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Aruba's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "CIAPAPUANEWGUINEA":

• From Turks and Caicos Islands: "Central America and Caribbean :: TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS". CIA The World Factbook.
• From Demographics of Aruba: "Central America and Caribbean ::ARUBA". CIA The World Factbook.
• From Sint Maarten: "Central America and Caribbean ::SINT MAARTEN". CIA The World Factbook.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 14:40, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

What you should be apologizing for is failing to provide us with a specific reference error which you are trying to "fix". As far as I can determine (Dec 23, 2017) there are no references to the CIA World Fact Book in the Demographics section of this article. There are 3 citations of the correct reference (the 2nd, above) in the separate article Demographics of Aruba, so perhaps this (stub) article was separated from the main article after the bot posted. I write this not addressing the bot, of course, but on the small chance that the team who programmed such negligence into it might wise up.98.21.243.139 (talk) 07:48, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Whitewash

This article reads mostly like a promotional/tourist pamphlet. A friend of mine in high school was from Aruba and so I've paid a bit of attention to it's history over the past 5 decades. This article completely ignores the violence that occurred during the transition from what was effectively a colony of vassals to an independent unit of the Netherlands. There are, as far as I understand it, still nationalistic Arubans who are hostile towards Europeans. If I recall correctly (and I may not) Shell Oil Company dominated the economy in the 1960s and was 'chased' out by the riots, etc. in the '70s (80's?). Clearly this account has been sanitized and doesn't meet acceptable academic or journalistic standards, imho.98.21.243.139 (talk) 07:56, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Edits (esp. History)

I've added information and references to this article. The History section in particular was shockingly poor - full of un-referenced material, bizarre sentences and poor grammar. I had to re-write large sections of it. Sdrawkcab (talk) 18:35, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

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Ethnic groups

I don't think that the ethnic groups are correct when referring to the identities listed to consist the makeup of Aruba. For example there is no "Colombian" ethnic group. Lmagoutas (talk) 15:49, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

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