Talk:Arthur (TV series)/Archive 2

South park

It says that it references south park in an episode, does anyone know what episode that is?

• "The Contest", which also had a number of other various cartoon parodies: Dexter's Laboratory, Beavis & Butt-Head, etc. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 22:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

holocaust

hey from where did the idea that francine's grandfather is a holocaust survivor come from, cuz i don't think such heavy things would be mentioned in a kids tv show

Arthur deals with a number of heavy themes, such as divorce. It's a kids' show, but it deals with real life. And the reality is that the Holocaust happened.

well I don't remember any mentionings of the holocaust

Right, because from what I recall, there isn't. It's probably put there by some delusional troll. Removing it. RAMChYLD 04:59, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

In the christmas episode it mentions it. he was not a troll.

Oh? Which part? I bought both the VHS and the DVD off Amazon and have watched them millions of times, and don't recall seeing any of this.RAM 02:19, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Important notice

Some additional guidelines: If a character does not have a name listed, it should be considered a "prop" character and should not be put into the cast list until the character's name is found to be mentioned either in the books or on the TV series. Names from fanfics, as mentioned above, does not count as it is not canon to the show or the books.

Prunella

I saw the television-show before, and I think that Prunella and her family are opossums. They do not resemble Mr. Ratburn in any way.--Anglius 19:15, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

It says on the Arthur website that they are rats. Only the people who created Arthur can be right.

Sir, it is possible that they might have made a error. I apologise for replying so unpunctually.--Anglius 03:29, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure they made an edit. Oh yeah, I'm a girl, bub.

I apologise, madam. I still believe that they erred, though.--Anglius 00:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Information on the Arthur website is considered canon, error or not. Likewise there are many different sub-species of rats. You cannot assume that all rats look alike.RAM 06:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I still do not believe that they are rats, sir. However, there are apparently no other legitimate sources to contradict any of the information upon that 'web-site.' It would also be petty to argue about this.--Anglius 01:15, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

"April": Real name unearthed?

I noticed that someone has noted that the rabbit girl's name was somehow revealed as "Jenny" in the wiki. If anyone can confirm this, you may replace the name "unnamed rabbit girl" with it. I had this title on my Macintosh but accidentally wiped it when I upgraded it to OS 9.2 and can no longer get a copy of it, so no checking for me. Also, I put Charles back into Ratburn and did some correction to some embarassing mistakes I made: See episode #50802 at ECDC for more information. Lastly, about Mr. Read's first name being errornously said as "Nigel": I will let it through for now, but can anyone point me in direction of at least one episode where this error take place so I or others can verify it?

RAMChYLD 05:41, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I have to tell somebody

I turned on the TV to watch Arthur on my local station this morning (channel 39, Philadelphia) and instead found a program called "Inside the Nazi State". Worse, it had the PBS Kids Go logo in the corner! Obviously a mistake, but jeez.... ike9898 13:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Dispute topic: Win Arthur's Money

Okay, I noticed that someone has snuck that in. I dropped the link to the page and put up a dispute tag as I do not know the accuracy of the information. No one at the Yahoo Arthur Group has ever brought it up, and it just sounds fishy.

Please confirm the information by providing me with a link to the source of the information, thanks.RAM 09:15, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Update1 Fern publishing a book? Sounds too far off to be true. Please post links to references. Thanks. RAM 02:50, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Dispute resolution: Win Arthur's Money deleted

Seeing that no one replied about that, I have concluded that the information is bogus and have removed it. Update1 No replies about Fern publishing a book either, so I removed it, considering it to be bogus.

Arthur's Race

What race is Arthur? All the other characters have races/religions. So what is Arthur's?

• Well, Arthur attended a Christmas eve mass in Arthur's Perfect Christmas, so it is almost certain that he's Christian. RAM 07:09, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Christianity is a religion, not a race. AND in the US at least, many, many non-Christians celebrate Christmas.

ike9898 13:11, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

• • • Non-Christians may celebrate Christmas, but they don't go to mass you schmuck.-User:Mike Bags
      • Well, If he has one, it was never mentioned. RAM 05:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
        • Does it really matter? Janet6 18:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
          • In the grand scheme of things, does having an 'Arthur' article on Wikipedia at all really matter? I think not, so lighten up! Regardless, if Arthur attended 'mass', the implication is that he is Roman Catholic (as opposed to 'Christian'), faithwise. Can't help you as far as race goes. Grammaticus Repairo 23:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Arthur is apparently supposed to be white.--Anglius 01:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

How ironic that he's brown... Grammaticus Repairo 21:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't even think you can tell one's race just by looking at their skin. For one thing, if you used the skin color rational, you have to take into account that Francine is Jewish, and has an Eastern European Surname; therefore the odds of her being African American are rather slim. --ShadowJester07 23:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Of course you can't 'tell one's race just by looking at their skin'! I just found it amusing that the 'white' character was actually brownish in color...have a sense of humor! I would, however, like to note actor Yaphet Kotto as a Jewish African-American man, who also, interestingly, happened to play a character of Italian descent for 7 seasons in Homicide: Life on the Street. Finally, the word 'rationale' has an 'e' at the end.  :) Grammaticus Repairo 19:04, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Closed captioning errors removed

I have removed the closed captioning glitches in the trivia section. This is because firstly, Arthur is aired on two different captioning tracks in the US itself (and word has it some stations even offers a third track in Spanish). Outside the US, the captioning are almost certainly done in-house by the TV station and are usually not transferred from the official closed captioning track (in fact, there is still a substantial number of countries that either do not caption programming at all, uses a different captioning method i.e. Teletext), or use open captioning instead.

Guidelines to check with before submitting a caption mistake:

• 1. Is the caption settings of the TV correct at that time?
• 2. Did the TV station goofed up?
• 3. Was the signal strong enough to not warrant captioning errors?
• 4. Was the captioning done in-house and not transferred over from the official caption track(s)?
• 5. Was the program re-dubbed?

When recording a caption mistake in the WiKi:

• 1. Note the call-sign of the channel that the error occured at the end of the error.
• 2. If outside the US, note the country where the error occured.
• 3. It would also help to note the date/time the error occured.

This should help make it more comprehensible to the readers, as some might find it puzzling that a caption mistake occured when they do not in fact get captioning at all, or they did not get that mistake on their end at all. I also propose creating a separate page or section dedicated to glitches in the show if they're to be re-added.

RAM 07:09, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Revert Aug 11 2006 in 24 hours

The guide was fine the way it was and I believe that splitting the entire guide into smaller guides would only complicate matters more. We already have an unwelcome vandalism problem and I cannot spend all the time monitoring all these pages. Therefore I am considering reverting the page in 24 hours. If anyone have reasons for me to not do so please respond to this post. RAM 00:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

• It is too long and messy in its original form. GooTuM 17:27, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Reason accepted. The changes stays. RAM 12:10, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Funding

Is it really relevent for a Wikipedia article? GooTuM 17:26, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

• Well, if the other PBSKids-related pages has it, I don't see why not. Then again, it would probably leave the less-informed international readers scratching their heads.RAM 12:28, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

A question

Which is the episode in which Arthur says "Did Mozart give it a rest?" And which is the episode that, in one shot, has a real-looking house with a real-looking car in front of it?

• I can't remember, it's been years, but I'm betting Arthur vs. The Piano.RAM 01:01, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I think the Mozart Comment was from The Crunch Cereal Contest. GooTuM 05:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it was. It's when Buster suggests that they take a break from working on the jingle. SaranethSama 23:47, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah, ok. RAM 00:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

What about the answer to my second question?

• No idea (except a possibility that it's a post-season-5 episode), sorry. RAM 03:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Episode Pages

Should they be 2 15 minute episodes (like the first 3 episodes have) or should each 15 minute episode have an individual page (like some of the later episodes)? GooTuM 06:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, having each an individual page would go easier for those with narrowband or low-capacity devices (i.e. I sometimes would visit the site with a Sony Clie PDA, which has NetFront 3 as it's browser (and trust me, it's abysmal. Usually complains of page being too large and then cuts off halfway). Also, some areas air Arthur as one 15 minute episode iirc. I say, one 15-minute episode on each page, but note that which two episodes go back to back. Btw, I propose the following naming convention for the episode pages: <episode name> (Arthur TV series episode). Let me know what you think.RAM 01:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't that require making a lot of redirects? I'd say we only have to have the (Arthur TV series episode) if the episode name has another page (the episode name that comes to my mind is happy anniversary) GooTuM 05:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, well, alright. It's just a suggestion.RAM 00:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

More

Where on the Internet can I watch Arthur episodes?

I don't think one can watch episodes of Arthur on the Internet, unless PBS has put them up for streaming. However, Lime Wire may have the episodes up for illegal download :-p --ShadowJester07 22:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, your guess are as good as mine. I'd also like to catch up on Arthur as NTV7 stopped airing Arthur after season 4 in 2002 and Disney Asia dropped Arthur halfway through season 5 in 2003. If anyone have a good lead please post it here. RAM 01:35, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I think Google Video has some Arthur eps. Just click on "Video-new!" on the Google homepage, and there should be some Arthur clips, if not full episodes. Janet6 18:10, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. I'll go have a look when I find time to do so.

Well, took a look. Apart from a Kideo's Arthur's New Friend promo, nothing. So much for that. RAM 00:56, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Opinions, opinions, opinions!

I noticed in the "cast" section of this article, someone snuck in "Arthur's last tow voice changes sounded as if he hit early puberty". I think Wikipedia should be about the facts, and not what people think. I know I've inserted my opinions into articles before, but I'm trying to do better. Also--I haven't heard anything on this so-called "controversy" about the spiritualism and Yoga in Arthur. Can someone fill me in, or should I just delete that section? I know if someone was just hotheaded about something they saw in an episode, it's not really "controversy". Janet6 18:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Speculation doesn't really belong on Wikipedia. When I was reading over the controversy portion of the article, it seemed very over-analytical and cynical (This is a Children's show!). Furthermore, unless someone can dish out a reliable source for the claim, it should be deleted; Wikipedia is not a place for original research.

And for the facts, Arthur doesn't grow up, He will always be nine years old ;-) --ShadowJester07 19:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I decided not to touch the controversy section of the guide because of lack of information (as stated before numerous times, I never got beyond the first half of Season 5). I trust the other editors to know what they're doing before messing with it.RAM 02:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Are there any sources to where all those claims came from? Or are they from original research? --ShadowJester07 03:36, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

No idea. RAM 09:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Most likely then, it should probably be removed, as it is in violation with Wikipedia's policy regarding original research. --ShadowJester07 18:16, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup

Do you think the article is good enough to remove the cleanup tag? If not, what can we improve?GooTuM 21:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

There are several tone and writing style issues. One can't even get passed the first couple of paragraphs before sensing that there is something wrong. Here are things I have picked up,

• Seemingly Redundant and/or superficial Information.
• The Tid-Bits of poorly written cruft. (Ei "This game hasy you piloting the head of Arthur throughout a map of part of what is supposedly Elwood city and partaking in minigames so he could go visit the amusement park (Wonder World?). Gameplay is weak, graphics and BGM is only of mediocore quality, and voice acting is nonexistant")
• Mundane or Pointless facts that do not belong in the Triva Section.

I've trimmed a couple of the trivia. If this doesn't cause spasms, there are a couple more items that aren't really very interesting and could be dropped. ike9898 14:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

--ShadowJester07 23:14, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Ugh, i've never played those games >_> GooTuM 01:15, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I have played both Arthur games, and wrote that from experience. Arthur's Absolutely Fun Day really was that bad. I made those entries actually - mainly because some troll wrote delusional trash about an Arthur-Pac Man World crossover game, and I didn't really feel like tearing the whole section off since there are Arthur games in existance, so I just wrote those into the trash's place hastily.--RAM 13:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

One should also take into account that there is a contradiction in the Trivia section. "Although the program is primarily produced by WGBH of Boston, Massachusetts, the production of the show is all done in Montreal, Quebec, which includes the writing, drawing and voice-acting". How can the show be primarily produced in Boston (PBS's Flagship Educational Station) if all the work is done in Canada? I'm guessing this was a typo on someone's account. --ShadowJester07 19:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I admit, I wrote that too. The original entry which was put in by someone states that the show takes place in Boston, which is of course wrong. However, I could not think of how to correct that, since the logo at the end of the programming suggests that WGBH produced the show. Feel free to reword it, I can't think of anything better. Oh, re-added caption, I think it's needed because that's not a screenshot from the TV show. RAM 13:11, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I see nothign wrong with many of the trivia deleted... That 70's Show has an entire page for trivia and theres a lot more pointless facts... GooTuM 00:34, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Caption removal

I've removed the caption which indicated the pic was the Arthur logo. Looking at Template talk:Infobox Television, it says that "A caption explaining the image. An image with the title logo of the show does not need a caption.". Hope we're all agreeable to this. Please discuss here if it's an issue. --Oscarthecat 19:37, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

• Alrhight, have it your way. --RAM10:16, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Additional Consolidation

Is the Toys and games appearing on the show section really needed? It does not really seem to help the article, or provide any substantial information. Furthermore, for the sake of the article's size, It would probably be more efficient to split up the Album section into four separate articles or sub pages. --ShadowJester07 23:38, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

If you must, toys and games can go on a separate page as a list... but then this article could evntually become a big pile of links >_> GooTuM 01:50, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, I personally put a lot of work into that section. If it's removed I'll be less than happy. I vote that if it must be removed, it should be split into a sub-page. I do not agree with the idea of splitting the album article into three sub-pages however. One sub-page with all three albums, yes. Three sub-pages, no. RAM 14:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Wrong Page

In the Vomitrocious! page, it gives the wrong plot description as this episode is about Arthur turnign into Muffy. I forget what the title of this episode was... GooTuM 16:22, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I think the description on the page is for Arthur goes Crosswire or something along that line. I forget. RAM 00:56, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Live action?

Each half-hour episodes contains two self-contained stories, that are separated by a live-action vignette entitled A Word From Us Kids. I've never seen any of these vignettes. Do they really exist? Or are they only in later episodes? If so, that should be noted. Apart from this sentence, I'd never have a clue that there were any such things. Gohst 06:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

No, they don't exist; We added that sentence to spawn an intricate web of deceitful conspiracies that can be traced back to L. Ron Hubbard himself. (Of course they exist, why would we have added such a thing if they did not exist)-ShadowJester07 00:58, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

They exist, but only on the episodes that aired on PBS (and if I remember correctly, CBC) affiliate networks. International editions lack the viginette for some reason. Disney Channel Asia's and NTV7 Malaysia's airings of the show didn't have it, and neither did TCS Central Singapore's. However, the number of accounts of it from those who gets the show on PBS stations do prove it exists. I guess on versions sold to broadcasters outside the US, the viginette is optional. RAM 01:29, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Nor does the Latino version of Cartoon Network. --Slgr@ndson (page - messages - contribs) 03:02, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Anyone else from elsewhere wants to comment? It'll be intresting to know which country apart from the US and Canada airs the segment and which does not. RAM 00:59, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Cancelled?

I have noticed that Arthur has moved to "shows no longer in production" section of the PBS programming template. Has Arthur been cancelled?--Kenn Caesius 22:24, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

• I doubt it. IMDB doesn't say it's over (the end date is still "????") and I'd think cancelling a show with such a large fan community would inspire some "Save Arthur" petitions and such. Since I've heard nothing else about it, I assume it's an error. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 22:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I have not heard anything about any plans for an eleventh season. IMDB is not a reliable source, and "The Fairly OddParents" (just cancelled) and "SpongeBob SquarePants" have much bigger fan communitities than "Arthur". Also, Arthur has been partially put into obscurity by shows like Cyberchase and Jakers!, and hardly airs as much as it used to. Marcus 00:29, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
    • I personally wouldn't think of it as over. Although there is no word on season 11 yet, I really doubt it to be cancelled as it would've been official and would appear in either or both WGBH newsrooms and/or Arthur Worldwide. And as Starblind said, cancelling a show with such a large fanbase would be suicidal. Besides, they just released a movie (although the movie was bad imo). I guess they're just still in the planning phase. We get all sorts of rot here- from unnamed rabbit girl is April/May/June/Whatever trash to fake Season 11 information. As the the show mistakenly appearing in PBS' no longer in production template, mistakes happen. I even noticed some typos on my satellite provider's website yesterday.RAM 01:08, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I still about my doubts about Arthur being cancelled. I conducted searches for news and websites for further and I could not find any reliable source. I cannot help but wonder if some person just misinterpreted the end of tenth season episodes as the end of the series.--Kenn Caesius 16:25, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

• • • • I bet it isn't in production anymore, but it still airs in my town...

First Fictional Aardvark ?

Was Arthur Or the Blue Aardvark in the The Ant and the Aardvark the first fictional Aardvark.

Arthur was first introduced in the late '70s. A&A came out in ~'69. Hope that answered your question ;) --ShadowJester07 22:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

That A&A which Feature The Blue Aardvark was the first aardvark.

What about Cerebus the Aardvark did He come before or after Arthur

• None of the above is even close to being the first fictional aardvark. There are aardvark characters present in the folk tales of several cultures, such as the Yoruba people of what is now Nigeria. Some believe that the Egyptian god Set (Seth) represents an aardvark. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

That doesn't Answer the Cerebus Question

• It's close, but Athur came first, in 1976, about one year before Cerebus. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:08, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

What are some of the folk tales that feature aardvarks?

• Here's one. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:08, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Know any more folk tales

Are we doing someone's research for them for a school report on "Aardvarks In Fiction"? If so, I hope they also have someone to go over the basic tenets of capitalization and punctuation before they turn it in. -Grammaticus Repairo 06:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

No and Jeez,I'm just Curious.

Indeed you are. -Grammaticus Repairo 04:27, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

D.W. or Cyril Sneer

In one Episode of Arthur D.W. loves money this Copying off of Cyril Sneer on The Raccoons because he is also an aardvark.

Many Characters in Arthur have the names of character that are also names of characters on the Raccoons like George,Lisa,Tommy, and Dan

Adult Humor

Did Arthur ever have episodes using adult Humor.

• Sort of. There was never anything patently adult like sexual references, but there have been jokes which were clearly intended for viewers older than Arthur's core audience. As one example, when Muffy is working as agent for the Backstreet Boys, she takes a 50% cut, which is much higher than an agent would make in real life, although most 4-to-8-year-olds probably wouldn't knoe that. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Mr.Haney vs Mr.Haney

Did Arthur steal the name Mr. Haney from Green Acres' Mr. Haney?

Well, if they don't behave alike, my guess would be no.RAM 12:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I mean was there any other Mr.Haneys that were fictional?

EA Games and funding

Can anyone confirm this, that EA games is a sponsor of Arthur? For some reason, I suspect the entry. 219.93.44.71 00:24, 8 November 2006 (UTC) (This anonymous message was created by User:RAMChYLD as he forgot to log in)

It's likely a falsehood. Which explains why EA was poorly spelled and Google is not finding anything. --ShadowJester07 01:11, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Alright. Just wanted to be sure. Removed. RAM 00:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Pop culture references

I think that pop culture references should be permitted in articles on Wikipedia, for the reasons given in my summary for my revert. Marcus 01:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Also, a small percentage of kids who go on Wikipedia are children, and a large percentage have poor language skills and perform vandalism. Marcus 01:24, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Do you mean this page, [1]? It should probably be spliced into the "about Arthur" part --ShadowJester07 01:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

A substantial percentage of adults who go on Wikipedia also have demonstrably poor language skills, for that matter. -Grammaticus Repairo 15:57, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Toys Appearing on the Series

Is it juut me, or is this section completely unnecessary? Wikipedia isn't a receptical for random bits of minutia. Some of the things included here could be used as examples of running gags, but to have an entire section devoted to "toys" (many of which only appeared briefly) seems excessive.

Er, I felt it was kinda superficial, but then again, I'm (supposedly) an m:Exclusionist. While I agree the section may not be needed, I would feel bad that person partially spent hours writing it in vain. Weak Agree with w/ Olivix --ShadowJester07 18:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Also agreed, although Stanley belongs on the characters page. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 18:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I just realized that there's an entry here for a calculator Muffy got... That seems awfully excessive. If it's okay, when I have time I would like to try to pare this down to a list of "significant parodies", which I think would be more appropriate. (Lolly Locket and the World Girls are significant; the doll DW didn't get for Christmas is not.) As for the person who wrote it - it's true that it's a shame it was written in vain, but it doesn't belong here. They're free to put it on a fan page if they want to. Olivix 19:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Or a seperate Arthur wiki. I'm surprised nobody has started one yet. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I really cannot see how Stanley belongs to the characters page, since he's not a "living" character on the show. Separate Arthur Wiki, though, sounds like a good idea. Gotta figure out how Wikia works. RAM 01:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

On the idea of a separate wiki, I admit I kinda like it. And so does Agent 0042 (a fellow moderator at the Arthur yahoo groups). I've just submitted a request to Wikia. Let's see how it turns out! RAM 14:05, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, good. I hope it happens. Let me know if you get stuck. Basically Wikipedia works just like Wikipedia, so if you know your way around here you'll be just fine there. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:02, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, still no word from them. I also just noticed that there's a 2-10 day waiting period before they get back to me on the case, so now I will need to play the waiting game.RAM 13:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, it is done. We're given a trial wiki at the Wikia Scratchpad[2]. Right now it's kinda bare, but I will be starting to put up information on the page soon. RAM 12:48, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Arthur: Virtual Elwood City

That doesn't sound right. I know the Arthur GBC game exists because I've played it (albeit on an emulator). I know the Arthur PSOne game exists because I have a copy of it and have played it on a real PSOne. I know Living Books exist because I have a few of them (D.W. The Picky Eater and Arthur's Teacher Trouble). I know there are classroom companion CD-ROMs in existance. But this one just smells fishy. And nothing's turning out on Google either.RAM 01:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Eleventh Season

I noticed someone put up the eleventh season. Where did they hear that from?

Arthur's House

The Arthur wesbite has a whole new Elwood City map. The map seemingly matches up with that of the Boston vicinity. Arthur's house is on 562 Main Street, so I posted that in the article. Janet6 20:27, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Arthur's article

Why's the article called Arthur Timothy Read? I know Timothy is his middle name, but couldn't it just be Arthur Read?

For the same reason the Leon Kennedy article is actually called Leon S. Kennedy ;-). In other words, I'm not sure; it was probably created to separate that Arthur article from any other possible article with the same name. --ShadowJester07 21:27, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Article Vandalism

I noticed that people are freely inserting vandalism into the Arthur article, like Buster and Arthur behaving inappropriately with each other and mess like TV-MA. Can we guard against this, please? Thanks. Janet6 19:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

If it's a frequent thing (six related incidents within a short period of time) you can request for the page to be protected. See Wikipedia:Requests for page protection --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  23:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Episode notability

Many or all of the existing individual episode pages for Arthur fail notability guidelines, including the notability guidelines for television episodes, and have been tagged accordingly. Might I suggest these articles are improved with real-world information from reliable sources to assert notability. Trivia, quotes and overly long plot summaries should be removed. You might consider merging any notable information onto the list of episodes or season pages. Otherwise, when these pages come up for review in fourteen days, they may be redirected, merged or deleted. If you want any help or further information, then come to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Episode coverage. Thanks. Gwinva 13:36, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Apocalyse Now?

"Full Metal Jacket (Episode 80 – The Lousy Week) In which the leader of an army of lice claims to "love the smell of hair gel in the morning" parodying the similar famous line delivered by Robert Duvall." This line is a parody of Apocalypse Now not Full Metal Jacket

Kevinbi2004 07:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Arthur Parodies

What happened to the List of parodies on Arthur article?

It was likely deleted. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  22:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

• Or perhaps you botched the link, along with the spelling of the word "parodies" --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  22:30, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
• Perhaps if you have a comment to make you could first make sure it is useful. If not perhaps you should refrain from making it. 4.142.78.67 12:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)eric

The irony. --ShadowJester07 ► Talk 13:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Something Happened

Someone really messed this page up, look at the page to see what I mean. What do we do, do we just fix it? 63.27.99.56 01:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

The funding fiasco

From what I can discern, the funding fiasco, (adding unsourced, unverifiable and basically untrue funding) is nothing new. See the most recent history. What's the consensus about semi-PP? I'm not a regular editor of this article, otherwise I'd just req. it myself, but I don't want to step on anyone. Yngvarr 23:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Oops, nevermind, I see an admin is already on it! Yngvarr 23:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I got tired of it. It's the same guy, he does it all the time, and he does it all through PBS Kids shows. Argh. Gladys J Cortez 02:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Premier air date

According to [3], the show premiered in 1996. I've been seeing some dispute, in the edit history, over the premier. Yngvarr (c) 11:34, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and thanks for clarifying this; I got so mixed up between versions that I think I reverted to a vandalized version instead of a correct one. (oops!) It's hard to tell when one IP is vandalizing and another is correcting it, and which is the vandal. But now that I know it's 1996, that will simplify matters. Sorry for the confusion. Gladys J Cortez 15:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Nothing to be sorry about. Very easy to loose track! I saw the same thing, and was just on the verge of an undo when I figured I'd see if it was possible get the info straight from the source. Yngvarr (c) 15:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Greg Bailey

his name is clearly linked to the wrong article.ReZerO (talk) 23:57, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Hefty Zoo Pals, funding "vandalism", and what's for dinner here at my house...

Okay, I have to admit here that I was completely wrong about something. Hefty Zoo Pals is, believe it or not, actually a valid sponsor for "Arthur". I've been reverting it as vandalism, in the same vein as our friend who keeps adding Pfizer and all the other unsourced info, but as NeilN has pointed out, if you take a look at the Arthur main page on the PBSKids website, it's there as plain as day [4]--it's at the far right, under the picture of the Tibble twins.

So to those of you who've added it and been reverted, sorry--my bad (though to be fair to me, once something's been removed, even for the wrong reason, it's the responsibility of the person who added it to prove on the talk page why it should be re-added--that didn't happen in this case, but that doesn't excuse me either.) I'll be more careful in the future, and in the meantime I shall enjoy my delicious dinner of crow and humble pie. Gladys J Cortez 02:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC

I have edited the funding years for some of the sponsors, they were incorrect before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.89.42 (talk) 22:57, April 6, 2008

First--thank you for actually saying something on the talk page, as we have an actual vandal who does this quite regularly and I would have pounced on this as another example, had you not said anything. Second: Where, exactly, does this information come from? I ask this not because I doubt you, but because it would be EXTREMELY useful to have an actual, citeable source for this data, to counteract vandal activity. (And third--please sign your posts, with the ~~~~ feature. Again--not to criticize; just makes it easier to follow talk threads, is all.) But mostly, thanks for bringing it up--it's GREATLY appreciated. Gladys J Cortez 10:13, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I have found some press releases and internet caches that only list Juicy Juice as a corporate sponsor, no Baby Gap or Polaroid. I have also found a taping of it I made, with it's original sponsors and only juicy juice was mentioned. Here is one of my resources

http://web.archive.org/web/19961225153834/www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/arthur/

I am going to change the years for baby gap and Polaroid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.89.42 (talk) 01:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Abuse report filed for 69.19.14.xx

I am posting this on here, not as canvassing, but for disclosure. Also, the IP in question is dynamic and appears with different addresses, so they may not see any messages posted on their talk page, but maybe they will see the talk page here and start to communicate a little more.

Wikipedia:Abuse reports/69.19.14.xx

Yngvarr (c) 11:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

PBS funding

Does anybody have any references to back up the information within the "PBS funding" section. I know PBS usually announces the show's sponsors before and after the show, but someone (not including vandals) seems to change the section one or twice every week. So, the section needs references. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  18:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Season One

It is stated in the article that season one will be released on DVD in "Spring 2009". There's no citation and I can't find that information elsewhere on the web. Delete? NeonFire (talk) 21:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Tucker AND Tolon?

I believe that Marc Brown has two sons, Tucker and Tolon. At least that's what it says on the wiki page for Marc Brown. I also don't believe he has a daughter named Sarah, I could be wrong though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.187.145.64 (talk) 05:31, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

i don't believe marc brown has a daughter named Sarah, either. Marc Brown has stated he has three kids and Tucker and Tolon were two of them. Yet, his daughter's name is Eliza. Noliandynamite (talk) 22:09, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I just edited the page. I have the link that proves my point but I don't know how to site the link. Here it is: http://www.kidsreads.com/authors/au-brown-marc.asp If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.187.145.64 (talk) 01:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Languages

Don't you think that the show should have articles in other languages? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.168.194.22 (talk) 07:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

It really isn't made in other languages, therefore I'm not too sure. But... be bold. Basketball110 02:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I`m pretty sure it`s dubbed in other languages... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angiex3-2 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

It is dubbed to Hebrew in Israel. ~~

Funding or advertising?

Many of the entries in the funding section appear to be advertisements or other PR actions (whitewash?). I believe that the advertisements should either be removed (my preferred course of action) or placed in a section separate from the donations. Yartrebo (talk) 16:47, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I would support removal of the function section altogether. It's a source of insidious vandalism, edit warring, and so on. I've tried to remove these from other PBS articles, but the changes never "stick". Yngvarr (t) (c) 16:54, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

i dont get it what kind of animal was arthur?? all those years watching it never understood —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.152.221.140 (talk) 19:16, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

He's an aardvark; a-a-r-d-v-a-r-k :) --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  03:54, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Crazy Bus

Why does a search for "Crazy Bus" redirect here if Crazy Bus is mentioned nowhere on the page?

Does it really matter since no other articles link to Crazy Bus? No, it does not really matter.Mkdw^talk 01:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Crazy Bus...LOL...it's DW's favourite music that she torments Arthur with.Kbbbb (talk) 01:27, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect "created by" credit on the Article page

Whoever edited the program information in the sidebar of the article is incorrect, and the previous information should be restored.

"Created by Marc Brown" should read "Created by WGBH"

The series Arthur was not created by Marc Brown.

{{editsemiprotected}}

While Marc Brown did create the books on which the TV show was based, the television show itself was created by WGBH in Boston, spearheaded by Carol Greenwald. The show bible and pilot were written by Ken Scarborough, who developed the show for television, and who was head writer/story editor for the first four seasons. Attached is a YouTube video of the first season's credits. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr8tzmv-QSQ

In the beginning, Marc Brown was a consultant for the series, but did not become an executive producer until much later in the series. (Arthur Writer1 (talk) 17:47, 14 August 2010 (UTC))

Done We can't use that YouTube video as a reference because of copyright concerns, but based on my own quick searches, which turned up this New York Times article, what you say seems to be correct. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Early TV special(s)?

Were there any animated Arthur projects before this TV series? I seem to remember seeing something, it couldn't have been any later than 1993. --Ragemanchoo (talk) 13:25, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

According to IMDB "Arthur appeared in a 1983 episode of the PBS show Reading Rainbow in an animated reading of the book "Arthur's Eyes" narrated by Bill Cosby. A 1988 Reading Rainbow episode featured an animated reading of the somewhat Arthur related The Bionic Bunny Show book narrated by Gene Klaven." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.150.52 (talk) 04:29, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Buster's Game for Cool People; unreferenced addition

This edit added "Buster's Game for Cool People", which apparently is a WiiWare game set to be released in 2009. I searched Google for this and found no results. It was done by an anonymous user. Do you think it should be left there? Does anyone know if this game is real? NeonFire (talk) 20:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

No, I don't think it should be left there, which is why I took it out. :) My rule of thumb, after 18 months here, is: if it's unreferenced and contributed by an anon user, it's false until proven otherwise by a valid citation. Anon IPs who HAVE valid citations for what they're adding will most often use them the first time they add something.Gladys J Cortez 22:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

That might have been Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People. dogman15 (talk) 18:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Getting semi protected access

{{Edit semi-protected}} I would like to link Robert Naylor to his wikipedia page Robert Naylor (actor) but I cannot since I am considered an anonymous user. Can someone else do it for me?

Thanks Winniep32 (talk) 22:41, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Done. By the way, you are not considered an "anonymous user" if you have registered. You have simply newly registered and as such still lack certain privileges. After you have made 10 edits, and have been registered for 4 days, you will be considered "autoconfirmed" and can then do many more things. This was designed primarily as a safeguard to prevent anonymous vandals from registering and easily bypassing protections of vandalized pages. elektrikSHOOS 02:03, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 198.147.175.203, 3 December 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Please change "Although the program is primarily produced by WGBH of Boston, the production of the animated portions of the show—which includes the writing and voice acting—is done in Montreal, Quebec, and South Korea" to "Although the program is primarily written and produced by WGBH of Boston, the production of the animated portions of the show— which includes the voice acting—is done in Montreal, Quebec, and South Korea." The writing is actually done in Boston at WGBH.

Please change "Beginning in Season 11, the "A Word From Us Kids" segment was replaced by a segment called "Postcards from You", where a couple of live-action videos sent in by young viewers were spotlighted per episode." "In Seasons 11 & 12, the "A Word From Us Kids" segment was replaced by a segment called "Postcards from You", where a couple of live-action videos sent in by young viewers were spotlighted per episode." Postcards from You do not appear in seasons 13-15.

198.147.175.203 (talk) 16:28, 3 December 2010 (UTC) Melissa Bush, WGBH-Boston

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Qwyrxian (talk) 15:50, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

voice cast needs revamp

I think they should be organized in tables by seasons vs characters. Yay or nay?Angiex3-2 (talk) 08:19, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I would rather prefer something wit bullet points. I think tables are too clunky for this kind of thing. See Scooby-Doo#Voice cast --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  16:25, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

That can work. I`ll get started on it. Also, I`ll be removing the Arthur`s Missing Pal cast because it was a one-time thing produced by a completely different studio...Angiex3-2 (talk) 21:24, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Arthur is not an aardvark ! He's clearly a dog!!! Or something. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.162.11 (talk) 02:47, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Inaccurate mistake

In the section Franchise under Home Media Releases the sentence "Season 10 - 13 are available to download on iTunes and Amazon.com." Season 14 is availible on Itunes so can someone please change the 13 to 14 cause I can't do it cause the page is protected. --Shehbaz100 (talk) 00:52, 16 September 2011 (UTC)--Shehbaz100 (talk) 00:52, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Now seasons 10-17 are available. I hope someone who can, will update this page.

Gross Inaccuracies in the Cinar Tax Evasion discussion

In the Production section (around ref [9]) where they discuss the Cinar tax evasion issue, please remove this sentence: "many of the producers of Arthur left Cinar, including Joe Fallon and Ken Scarborough, the head writers from season 1 to 4."

I would think that the person who wrote that Scarborough and Fallon left because of the tax evasion investigation should have to provide references that show (a) the American writers on Arthur were working under fictitious, Canadian names; (b) prove that Scarborough and Fallon were producers on the series; (c) prove that Fallon and Scarborough were employees of Cinar; and (d) prove that Fallon and Scarborough left because of the Cinar investigation.

They have not proved any of that, nor can they because none of it is true.

Neither Ken Scarborough nor Joe Fallon was ever made a producer, nor did either of them ever work for Cinar.

Employer: Fallon and Scarborough were employed by WGBH in Boston and reported to Carol Greenwald, Producer. Their reasons for leaving the show had nothing to do with Cinar's investigation. Scarborough left because he got a development deal at Henson. He turned the head writer reins over to Joe Fallon (because Joe wrote 31 of the first 60 episodes, so who better to do the job?) Joe was head writer for one season and then left to work on Between the Lions.

Producer Credit: A simple perusal of the credit scroll for any episode from season 1-4 would show that neither Fallon nor Scarborough were ever at any time given a producer credit. (If you look at Arthur's current credits, you'll see that Peter K. Hirsch (current head writer) doesn't get a producer credit either. http://www.pbs.org/parents/arthur/program/tv_credits.html, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0169414/fullcredits#cast

The Cinar Investigation: The dust-up centered around allegations that Cinar falsely put Canadian writers' names on some of their shows (in order to get tax credits from the Canadian government), when in fact the episodes were written by American writers. http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/articles/macleans/cinar-scandal

In the instance of Arthur, none of the American writers were given "fake" Canadian-citizen names. The American writers all used their real names and have all gone on to write on other U.S. shows. Fallon (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0266423/#Writer) went on to work on Between the Lions, Peep in the Big Wide World, Martha Speaks, Pocoyo, Curious George and a couple of shows at Nickelodeon. Scarborough (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0769095/#Writer), after the Henson deal, wrote on Saturday Night Live, Pocoyo, Between the Lions and is currently head writer of Martha Speaks. Kathy Waugh (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0915291/) went on to become head writer for Time Warp Trio, Curious George, Peep in the Big Wide World, and Big and Small. Peter K. Hirsch (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0386535/#Writer) became head writer for Arthur, Time Warp Trio, and also wrote for Peep, Mama Mirabelle's Home Movies and Between the Lions. Dietrich Smith (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1191098/) still writes on Arthur in addition to Pocoyo and Martha Speaks, Sandra Willard (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0929633/), Jamie Greenberg (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0338527/), I'm lousy at putting in code, but if you do a simple search on the Internet, you'll see what I'm saying is true.

Thanks for your attention in this matter.

--[[User:lilrayosun]lilrayosun]Lilrayosun (talk) 02:37, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 February 2012

On the right-hand sidebar listing the show credits, under "Production" please switch "Jacqui Deegan" from the "Producer" to the "Executive Producer" category. Ms. Deegan was Executive Producer for Seasons 14 and 15. Thank you very much.

Here is a reference. http://www.pbs.org/parents/arthur/program/tv_credits.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssdeighan (talk • contribs) 05:07, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Ssdeighan (talk) 22:27, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 01:21, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Done Thanks, Celestra (talk) 15:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 June 2012

216.86.82.43 (talk) 13:35, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 26 September 2012

72.80.69.154 (talk) 18:21, 26 September 2012 (UTC) Arthur is set to air its 16th season this October. And Postcards From Buster hasn't aired at all.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 14:40, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 October 2012

9 Story Entertainment 86.41.32.210 (talk) 22:53, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 02:13, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I think they were talking about what I have read in other places, saying that 9 Story Entertainment is now the producer of Arthur episodes (starting with Season 16). Alphius (talk) 23:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Ladonna Voice Actor

The voice actor for Ladonna Compson needs to be added to the Voice Cast section. Alphius (talk) 23:48, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I think her voice actor is Krystal Meadows. Alphius (talk) 23:50, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

The storyline getting more serious?

Is it me or did anyone notice that the storyline is getting more serious? In the very beginning it talked about simple things like wearing glasses and getting a puppy, later on it talked about more serious and more complex stories like bedwetting and dyslexia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.126.77.81 (talk) 07:30, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, that may be because the writers realized that kids deal with really complex stuff, even at seven and eight years old--sometimes ESPECIALLY at those ages! Unfortunately, unless there's a verifiable citation in independent media that confirms that, there's not really a good way to incorporate that info into the article; lacking a citation, it will be removed as WP:OR. Gladys J Cortez 10:01, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

One thing I find particularly interesting is that Arthur and his family are aardvarks. I wonder why Brown decided to do this. I'm sure a lot of people have never even heard of aardvarks, let alone know what an aardvark is. Alloco1 (talk) 20:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Personally, I think he chose aardvarks because they are awesome, but I think you will find the answer to your question here. RP9 (talk) 23:09, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.Alloco1 (talk) 20:18, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

It is kind of strange that Marc Brown decided to make Arthur and his family aardvarks but if you notice, all the characters on the show are animals. Like, Francine and Muffy for example, are monkeys. Buster is a rabbit/bunny. Although, some of the characters are hard to notice what sort of animal they are like Jenna, Binky, The Tibbles and others. Noliandynamite (talk) 22:14, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

binky is a bulldog and the tibbles are bear cubs Valehd (talk) 01:02, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

reference list

shouldn't there be a COMPLETE list of things the tv show references? Valehd (talk) 02:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Maybe somewhere, but certainly not on Wikipedia. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:58, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

ok. Valehd (talk) 01:03, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2015

Magicaru-Changed (talk) 07:25, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Amortias (T)(C) 10:09, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 August 2015

108.180.11.68 (talk) 15:42, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 16:04, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Creator

The successors to Cookie Jar have nothing to do with the creation of the show. That part should be separated to indicate that they just took over animation duties. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 12:58, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Howdy, Anythingspossibleforapossible, it's unclear to me what specific change you are proposing. Also, gots any references? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:44, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb I thought it was pretty obvious I was referring to the intro (the first sentence of the intro), and all the sources are there (not that I really need to back up what I'm saying), it's just the way it's presented. 9 Story Media Group and Oasis Animation aren't creators of the show, the creators of the show would be the ones who started it, which weren't 9 Story Media Group and Oasis Animation. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 13:07, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for the explanation, Anythingspossibleforapossible. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:18, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Older Fanbase Section

The page is locked but I have an edit request to make. I wanted to write that the popualarity of Arthur can also be attributed to it's mature handling of heavy subject matter like cancer, the 9/11 attacks, Asperger's syndrome, etc. but I wouldn't know how to write the entry. And the page is locked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:147:8201:46CD:5996:B1A7:1CFA:AEA2 (talk) 09:35, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 January 2016

Arthur acually has over 700 episodes. mix. whip. blend. is episode 779 i belive <reference youtube and my tv> Ps19.usinfobreaker (talk) 03:08, 10 January 2016 (UTC) ps19.usinfobreaker Ps19.usinfobreaker (talk) 03:08, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - Unfortunately, I can't take your tv as a reliable source. Does the official website list how many episodes there are? --allthefoxes ^(Talk) 05:58, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Website ranking

In this edit I removed content about PBS's Arthur website ranking. Firstly, there's no indication that Xmarks.com is a reliable source of any kind. What are they purported to be an expert on, and who says that they're an expert on it? Secondly, the following statement is unsubstantiated:

"The Arthur home page, www.pbskids.org/arthur/ has been ranked among the best websites in various genres: #12 in Arthur, #485 in Kids, #537 in Children, #3,076 in Authors, #23,542 in English, #32,329 in Education, #40,865 in TV, #71,515 in Games."

Even if we agreed that Xmarks.com was an authority on something, the reference doesn't say anything about ranking "among the best websites". It just says:

"Ranked: #16 in Arthur, #51 in New Games, #108 in Kids Fun, #472 in Kids, #678 in Children, #760 in Kids Games, #3,210 in Enfants, #5,004 in Authors, #9,597 in TV Shows, #76,783 in TV"

That could mean ranked in site pageviews, ranked by searches at Xmarks.com, ranked in individual IP hits, ranked in popularity through voting on the site, ranked in quality by some internal process, ranked in any number of ways. It is certainly a stretch to say that it ranks "among the best websites" considering YouTube is listed as the #1 website in the Arthur category, and what does Authors have to do with Arthur? Original research and a pretty indiscriminate addition. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:02, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Notability of Older Fanbase Section

The phenomenon of an older Arthur Fanbase lacks any citations and notability. Unless citations are added in a month, I am planning to delete this entire section. This section lacks the notability of other adult fandoms such as the Brony fandom or the Adult fandom for Spongebob. Yoshiman6464 (talk) 21:00, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

PBS strangeness

I don't know if this is also happening on American stations or if it's just a strangeness with Canadian ones, but the programming has been very strange with mixed up titles and dates. Today, 8 July 2016 at 6:00am the episodes "Fern and the Case of the Stolen Story; Sue Ellen Vegges Out' were described in the guide. Strangely it says "Original air date: 26 July 2016" which is obviously impossible since that is the future. These stories also already aired as epiode 194, s16e9, on 9 May 2013.

Furthermore when I actually watched it, it wasn't those titles, it was 'The Friend Who Wasn't There' which is episode 206, s18e1 which debuted 29 September 2014.

This isn't an isolated incident either. When I check upcoming schedule via 'Series' info I get:

1. Monday 11 July: "So Funny I Forgot to Laugh; The Best Day Ever" OAD 27-JUL-16

I know OADs sometimes get reset if it is a new version of an episode being broadcast. Are these possibly altered versions? It still wouldn't explain why future dates were being given for them unless altered versions were planned for the future. Ranze (talk) 18:24, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

September 2, 1996 premiere date incorrect

As I write this, I have just recently came across the Arthur fan forum The Slums of Elwood. On one thread, an user noted out that the supposed air-dates for selected episodes on TV Guide are wrong compared to the KET schedule archives. At the end of the first post on this particular thread, he said the following sentences: Is there any documentation that is referenced that shows Arthur actually premiered in September 1996? I (PrettyCoolStairs) found one source that said it premiered in October 1996.

Because of these muddle-ups, I thought it would be good enough to make an observation:

On a later post in said thread, I noticed that another user had used the Wayback Machine and made some discoveries I think many of you have not come across yet; said user also thinks Arthur was on for all five weekdays around its premiere month (either September or October). Furthermore, one of the archived PBS website's webpages points out that (I quote) "Arthur premieres on PBS on October 7, 1996". An archived webpage from the defunct website Yesterdayland also agrees with this.

Aside from here, the official Arthur Wiki, and TV Guide-like websites, I can not find anything that says that Arthur premiered on September 2, 1996. A news article about Arthur becoming a so-called cash cow too states that the show premiered in October 1996 and not the made-up 9/2/1996 date, as does many older webpages, articles, and websites.

Additionally, I can figure out why the wiki contributors think the Labor Day premiere date is correct, as many new PTV/PBS Kids shows premiere around this period (and the 1999 rebrand of PTV to PBS Kids even came around as early as this period); this article has been around as long as this tradition has been around, and they basically want to keep up the status quo.

Furthermore, the idea that new episodes of Arthur before the second season premiered can also be deemed wrong, as the above burden of proof notes that new episodes of the first season premiered on five consecutive weekdays.

If anyone has any information on the matter, let me know. 2601:82:203:9070:AD3E:606:F1B9:F92D (talk) 01:23, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Do you have any links to the archives? Yoshiman6464 (talk) 13:25, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Here you go. On the top of the page, it clearly states that "Arthur premieres on PBS on October 7, 1996. Check local listings or call your local PBS station for times."

Additionally, as The Slums of Elwood members recall, the show aired new episodes for five days a week. The theory that new episodes of early seasons of Arthur aired once a week can too be considered false, as the same theory has been a more recent trend and the archived page I linked you to shows some episodes considered to premiere in 1997 coming out in December 1996 instead.

As shown in KET's schedule archives, the premiere dates for all ten episodes of the fourth and fifth seasons compared to here and the Arthur Wiki (which both follow TV Guide's schedule instead of KET) are both second and third months of October 1999 and once a week through late-September through late-November 2000 compared to once a week through both September through early-November 1999 and September through early-November 2000.

As the schedule archive indicates, PBS did not start airing new episodes once a week until the fifth season, which ran from September 25, 2000 to November 27, 2000 according to KET. The schedule archives start from June 1999 to the current day, so the first three seasons are indeed incorrect. The later two seasons, however, are not, as KET is a PBS station that would regularly follow PBS' suggested schedules, much like WGBH (who is the production company behind the show). 2601:82:203:9070:CCCF:84F0:D8CC:FFF7 (talk) 15:08, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Update: August 14, 2016: PrettyCoolStairs of The Slums of Elwood has come up with the season premiere dates for both the second and third seasons: October 20, 1997 and November 16, 1998, respectively.

Additionally, in the same post where he confirms this, he mentions that if you count 30 weekdays from October 7, 1996 (Arthur's true premiere date), the thirtieth episode, consisting of "Arthur's First Sleepover" and "Arthur's New Year's Eve", would have aired on November 15, 1996. As he quotes in this post:

And, assuming the episodes are cycled through again, it matches up with #0111 being aired on Mon., Dec. 2, as listed on this archived webpage. This would mean all 30 episodes premiered on weekdays without any repeats until the entire season had aired.

Frankly, I have to agree with him, as the proposed June 2, 1997 date for the season finale of the first season makes little to no sense whatsoever; that would have been six months off of December 31st, which is what the second segment of that episode is supposedly themed to. TV Guide is not quite a reliable source for Wikia contributors, so why they are following that and not this is surprisingly extremely past me. Not only this, but they called a certain cash-cow Nicktoon a preschool show before, which only adds to the confusion. There have been quite some discoveries unearthed by both me and my sources, but because the main page is protected, I don't know what to do, as I am 100% sure that whoever sees the "correct" air-dates will ultimately switch them back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:82:203:9070:552b:3878:3c59:650a (talk • contribs)

Further discussion on this can be found at Talk:Arthur_(season_1). - SummerPhD^v2.0 20:21, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2017

Michael Hirsh was credited as the executive producer between season 12 and season 15 during the Cookie Jar era. 2601:202:203:4DA0:74CE:2A26:EE04:B527 (talk) 00:40, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Do you have any reliable sources to support the claim? DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 14:24, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

 Not done--Please provde a WP:RS in support of your claim and reopen the request.Winged Blades ^Godric 16:21, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2017

Although Arthur is directed primarily toward a child and preteen audience, over the years it has gained a substantial cult following among older viewers.

this should be back at the end of the fifth paragraph of the main article

point:

Arthur became one of the highest-rated shows on PBS Kids for several years since its debut, averaging almost 10 million viewers weekly in the U.S. It is aired in a total of 83 countries, including on: PBS in the United States; Radio-Canada, Knowledge Network, TVOntario, and CBC in Canada; several ABC channels in Australia; and BBC One/CBBC in the UK. It is the longest-running children's animated series in the U.S., and the second longest-running animated series in the U.S., behind The Simpsons. In late 2015, it was announced that the series had been renewed for a 20th and 21st season, along with two new hour-long specials. Although Arthur is directed primarily toward a child and preteen audience, over the years it has gained a substantial cult following among older viewers. 64.72.210.21 (talk) 03:27, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

References

As previously discussed with you, the article you are citing simply does not say anything about a substantial following -- cult or otherwise -- of older viewers. - SummerPhD^v2.0 04:41, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:55, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 October 2017

In the sentence beginning "In addition to the television series, the Arthur franchise has spawned three-hour-long movies", the phrase "three-hour-long" should be changed to "three hour-long", i.e. three movies, each an hour long. 2601:644:1:B7CB:75C2:683E:B7D3:6409 (talk) 01:55, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Done Minor edit only. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 01:59, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

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Does Arthur air on Freeform?

The 25 Days of Christmas article says that Arthur's Perfect Christmas airs on there. Did it really? 172.58.3.158 (talk) 12:03, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2018

50.225.110.36 (talk) 02:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — IVORK _Discuss 03:06, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2018

Bryantaylorishere (talk) 00:08, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2018

Bryantaylorishere (talk) 00:11, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

In popular culture

Problem with this:

"Arthur regularly incorporates parodies of and references to pop culture, including, but not limited to, South Park, Jeopardy!, The Waltons, The Sopranos, Beavis and Butt-head, the Indiana Jones adventures films, the James Bond series of films, The Adventures of Tintin, Dr. Katz, Professional Therapist, The Jerry Springer Show, Oprah, Law & Order, Charlie Rose, Antiques Roadshow, Mystery!, The Twilight Zone, Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds, Macbeth, Planet of the Apes, The Matrix, Star Wars, Titanic, The Wizard of Oz, Jaws, That '70s Show, Harry Potter, Keeping Up with the Kardashians, This Old House, The Happy Hollisters, Percy Jackson & the Olympians, and a popular superhero called Bionic Bunny that Arthur and Buster are a fan of.[25][16] "

This is a list or parodies INSIDE the series, whereas "in popular culture" means references to the series OUTSIDE of it. So it's completely in the wrong place. (And probably to detailed.) 95.90.115.121 (talk) 11:46, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

"for children ages 4 to 8"

This article is one of several subject to frequent challenge by an editor who believes that various childrens' shows are written for, marketed to and/or mainly watched by teens and adults. The editor frequently adds the shows to various inappropriate categories and removes/alters wording and/or categories stating or implying the shows are intended for young children.

I have addressed the issue in most cases by finding unimpeachable sources directly stating the intended age ranges for the shows. 4 to 8 is reliably sourced. "Children" is vague. - SummerPhD^v2.0 01:17, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Broken link in references

11. "Millcreek native Marc Brown on aardvarks and art". Retrieved August 12, 2016. has a broken link that directs to http://www.goerie.com/article/20160417/NEWS02/304179902/millcreek-native-marc-brown-on-aardvarks-and-art

Correct link is http://www.goerie.com/news/20160417/millcreek-native-marc-brown-on-aardvarks-and-art — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jer.g.white (talk • contribs) 02:20, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2019

Qbkbrown (talk) 14:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

To the Voice Cast section for George Lundgren, please add "Samantha Reynolds (Seasons 12-13)" under Eleanor Noble

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NiciVampireHeart 17:57, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Mr. Ratburn's Marriage

A recent episode showed Mr. Ratburn marrying a man which is groundbreaking for a animated show aimed at younger children. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.15.144 (talk) 15:27, May 14, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah should there be more info on that. It enrages and disgusts me that they would push this on innocent children, but it is notable for Wikipedia, right? Thanks, EDG 543 (talk)

Your disgust over fictional animals getting married is irrelevant here. - SummerPhD^v2.0 22:50, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@SummerPhDv2.0: I'm not disgusted by animals getting married, I'm disgusted that they try to make it OK for same sex marriages to occur. Had to clear that up. Thanks, EDG 543 (talk) 14:43, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Allow me to clarify then: Your disgust over legal same-sex marriage is irrelevant here. - SummerPhD^v2.0 15:29, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

It's the most coverage this series has received in years. It is rather unusual for a kid's show to receive network coverage. I'd say if there's a second reliable source, we should definitely mention it. - SummerPhD^v2.0 22:50, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Some additional sources: from tvline and from yahoo entertainment (not as good of an article IMO), and the episode itself (though I'm not sure if that link is permanent and also it's a primary source). --Pokechu22 (talk) 23:21, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

It has recently been banned in Alabama.151.213.91.72 (talk) 01:15, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Ehh, I wouldn't say "banned". It's more of public television in the State of Alabama deciding not to air it. It can be viewed online in Alabama. FunksBrother (talk) 03:20, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

And now it's banned in Arkansas. I'm ashamed of living in that state.98.19.248.137 (talk) 16:55, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

A couple more sources for the refusal to air it in Alabama --TheBankery (talk) 15:24, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 October 2020

PatrickUTTPKKTK (talk) 19:02, 20 October 2020 (UTC) it was cancelled in October 16 2019

References

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. You can reopen the request after presenting your request in the expected form by setting the |answered= parameter to no. -ink&fables «talk» 20:05, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2021

I feel it would be neat to mention how Arthur did in ratings & the impact the TV show had when it first came out. It dethroned Barney's #1 spot within 7 months of premiering and was only #2 in the ratings just behind Blue's Clues on Nickelodeon. Libraries starting putting limits on Arthur books once it became a mega-hit, and there were various merchandise ventures. TylerBozetski (talk) 23:20, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 23:26, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

"Button island" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Button island. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 10#Button island until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Dominicmgm (talk) 14:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Working title for animated series

The working title for the animated series was Arthur the Aardvark.75.90.41.180 (talk) 15:29, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

References

Please Change The End Date To 2022 Since Arthur Has Been Cancelled After 25 Seasons And There Will Be No Season 26

Therobloxguy3009 (talk) 03:01, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done. Last air date is only added once it happens. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 03:52, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

ArthurFan598

man the new animation is soooo bad its lazy...They ruined the show 115.133.85.206 (talk) 06:54, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2022

Add in fifth paragraph after mentioning autism spectrum disorder. So far this is unsubstantiated in the text. 24.138.73.144 (talk) 08:17, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Done. --Mvqr (talk) 11:26, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

LGBT TV show?

Given that the Season 22 episode Mr. Ratburn and the Special Someone regarded gay marriage, would these categories be worth including in the article's categories?

Category:1990s American LGBT-related animated television series‎

Category:2000s American LGBT-related animated television series‎

Category:2010s American LGBT-related animated television series‎

Category:2020s American LGBT-related animated television series‎

I, myself am uncertain about the episode itself, but if one or two characters are  Confirmed to be gay, then would the categories be worth including in the article? Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 02:55, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2022

User:Interesting Soup sock. Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 00:55, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
NFLfields (talk) 18:21, 24 September 2022 (UTC) I wanna to add stuff on the page.  Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Cannolis (talk) 18:48, 24 September 2022 (UTC) Note: See also. Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 03:46, 25 September 2022 (UTC)