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Text and/or other creative content from this version of American Crime (TV series) was copied or moved into American Crime (season 1) with this edit on 22 November 2015. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Source for addition of 'Gwen' and actress.[edit]

Here's the source for Gwen's involvement and the actress who portrays her. Npamusic (talk) 02:34, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Aliyah's religion[edit]

Though her religion hasn't been stated outright on the show, it's fairly clear that Aliyah (Carter's sister) is a follower of the Nation of Islam rather than a traditional Muslim. Given the themes of the show and how different the two religions are, this seems like an important distinction. Mar9en (talk) 06:32, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anthology[edit]

This series has been described as an anthology based on a dated source from Deadline, yet clearly, it was a single story with three character arcs, not an anthology, which would have had multiple stories. The source cited is dated (going back to when Felicity Huffman was cast), and clearly is no longer accurate. ABC's site for the show does not describe it as an anthology, so either plans changed, or Deadline, as it often does, got it wrong. --Drmargi (talk) 20:55, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

From the series creator - http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/john-ridley-timely-parallels-abcs-763667
From Entertainment Weekly - http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/12/american-crime-season-2

--Alrofficial (talk) 20:58, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But ABC is your primary source, and they don't describe it that way. --Drmargi (talk) 21:00, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

From Paul Lee - Despite the widespread critical praise for John Ridley’s anthology drama, many were surprised when the little-watched entry was given a second season order. Now that it has, the prestige play will hit the reset, focusing on a “completely different scenario and a completely different crime even placed in a different part of America,” said Lee. At the same time, the network chief revealed that many of the actors from American Crime’s first season will be back for season two, though in this case they’ll be playing entirely new characters — a format similar to Ryan Murphy's FX anthology American Horror Story.

--Alrofficial (talk) 21:05, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As long as you have a source from the production itself, we're good to go. The Deadline source was a poor, dated one that should have been replaced. --Drmargi (talk) 21:48, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

By John Ridley himself: [1][2][3][4] Maticsg1 (talk) 21:22, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Season articles[edit]

A user has created season articles, however I feel there's not enough content to warrant this. The main article does not have significant content to need article splitting like this. The episode list for season 1 doesn't even have episode summaries (except for one episode), so duplicating that into a separe article when it's already in List of American Crime episodes seems pointless. Unless significant expansion is planned–complete episode summaries, expansion of reception and production info that is not duplicated from the main article, otherwise, the articles should just be redirected. Drovethrughosts (talk) 17:13, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Editing American Crime season 2[edit]

On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 we are creating individual pages for each of the American Crime season 2 episodes.

Then on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 a class of Winona State University students will add a summary for each episode of American Crime (TV series), season 2. Students will write from an neutral point of view and plan to include information and references from victim-centered and trauma- informed themes for each episode; this type of information is not always provided and thus the purpose of adding new content for this TV series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wsuklarson (talk • contribs) 16:56, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Wsuklarson: Talk to the WikiEd people urgently, please, because otherwise you're likely to find it a frustrating experience. Creating the articles straight into the main encyclopaedia indicates you don't know enough about our policies to avoid drama. Guy (Help!) 23:27, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Recurring cast table[edit]

I have removed a table in the article that putatively identifies recurring cast across the three seasons. What it really does is identify the roles of the ensemble (Huffman, Hutton, King, Taylor, etc.) in a table, duplicating information already listed directly above it. Moreover, it uses color-coding to identify main v. recurring cast, which breaches WP:COLOR, given a screen-reader cannot discern the difference in the two on the basis of color alone (I doubt it complies with WCAG 2.0's AA level criteria either). It takes up a lot of space, adds no new information, and breaches a major American law (P.L. 93-112, Section 508) governing accessibility of websites, a critical issue given the Wikimedia Foundation is operated out of San Francisco, making Wikipedia subject to American laws governing accessibility. Simply put, the table is pointless fancruft. --Drmargi (talk) 02:33, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What you find "takes lots of space, adds no new information, and breaches laws", I find a useful way to see the actors various roles in an easy to read format. In fact, by removing it, you may be making it harder for people with certain disabilities to easily see this information. If you don't like the color coding, find a way to make the table more disability friendly. 2602:304:B3F3:DD59:4517:7786:5E61:C938 (talk) 17:47, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please wait for consensus before restoring. I agree that is should be removed as cruft. Scr★pIron^IV 17:58, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Making the table more disability friendly isn't my burden. The table is duplication and cruft. We're an encyclopedia, not a fansite. --Drmargi (talk) 18:15, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What does "cruft" mean?--Njorent (talk) 19:53, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Shortened form of fancruft Scr★pIron^IV 20:07, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The table easily illustrates that this is an anthology series with recurring cast each season. I would argue that is an important part of the show that should be highlighted. As for the fancruft argument, that is just silly. The table isn't some subjective list of who the hottest characters are, it is literally showing the facts of which actors have played multiple roles in the series. Furthermore, I could argue that all tv shows should be removed from Wikipedia, as they are not a scholarly subject that would be found in a traditional encyclopedia. But Wikipedia is not a traditional encyclopedia, and so if a significant amount of the users find the table useful, it should be left. Finally, as I said before, it makes the information on finding the recurring actors and their roles easier to see. Shouldn't an encyclopedia easily display important information? Having to manually search through the cast list of each season to find recurring actors is not easy. 2602:304:B3F3:E3F9:4F1:E8A:A1A9:276E (talk) 15:15, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]