Talk:Alphonse de Lamartine

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Fiscal Status at Death[edit]

The article currently asserts (sans citation) that Lamartine died in poverty. However, page 258 of Wilfrid Thorley's "A Bouquet from France" states that "two years before his death... the empire granted him a capital sum which relieved further anxiety." I'll soon be updating the article accordingly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.219.79.141 (talk) 01:00, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On Muhammad[edit]

What is the revelence of his opinions about mohammad? or what makes his opinions about the russian tzar less important? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.214.102.99 (talk) 10:26, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A year and a half later, I agree. In all of Lamartine's career, his opinion of burat Muhammad must be among the least important. The mam wrote the first great romantic poem, and there's not a word of it quoted in this article. I'm taking the quote on Muhammad out. MarkinBoston (talk) 04:26, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I took it out again, per the discussion above, and move it here:

In his book Histoire de la Turquie (1854), Alphonse de Lamartine writes:

If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers, which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislation, empires, peoples and dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then-inhabited world; and more than that he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and souls....^[1]^: 154 His forbearance in victory, his ambition which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire, his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death – all these attest not to an imposture, but to a firm conviction, which gave him the power to restore a dogma. This dogma was two-fold: the unity of God and the immateriality of God; the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with the words. Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational beliefs, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he.^[1]^: 155

Str1977 ^(talk) 10:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b de Lamartine, Alphonse (1855). History of Turkey, Volume 1. D. Appleton & Company. greatest men of modern times.

[Lamartine-1] Lamartine, Alphonse (1855). History of Turkey, Volume 1. D. Appleton & Company. greatest men of modern times.

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