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Category:Trustees?[edit]

Should we add Category:Trustees? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:47, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Under investigation[edit]

Weisselberg, along with Donald Trump Jr., for a possible role in concealing hush money payments and signed checks reimbursing per Michael Cohen regarding Donald Trump and the Trump Organization, is under investigation by the Southern District of New York.^[1]

X1\ (talk) 00:42, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you're suggesting that this is a direct quote from the source, it isn't. The source doesn't say that Weisselberg is under investigation. Perhaps relevant to this is that Weisselberg was granted some form of immunity. R2 (bleep) 03:18, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Per source

Possible role of Trump and others in concealing hush money payments: Southern District of New York Federal prosecutors in Manhattan have examined the role of Mr. Trump and Trump Organization executives played in concealing payments to two women who said they had affairs with Mr. Trump. In addition to Mr. Trump himself, Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, and Allen Weisselberg, the chief financial officer for the Trump Organization, signed checks that Mr. Cohen said reimbursed him for paying off one of the women, the pornographic film actress Stormy Daniels.

@Ahrtoodeetoo: Is there rewording you suggest? Maybe past tense? X1\ (talk) 00:40, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nowhere in there does it say that Weisselberg ever was or still is under investigation. The best we might be say is that he was ~~invoked~~ involved in an investigation that’s under investigation. While that is verifiable, I have concerns from a neutrality/BLP/guilt-by-association perspective. R2 (bleep) 00:46, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Ahrtoodeetoo: does below make more sense and follow the references?

Weisselberg, along with Donald Trump Jr., signed checks reimbursing Michael Cohen (per Cohen) used in a possible concealment of hush money payments, regarding Donald Trump and the Trump Organization, which is being investigated by the Southern District of New York.^[1]

X1\ (talk) 20:49, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have to apologize, I didn't see the Feb 27 source you linked in-text inside of your first proposal and thought you were relying solely on the "Tracking 29 investigations" source. I would support the following, citing the Feb 27 source: "As of February 2019, Weisselberg was under investigation by the Southern District of New York for a possible role in concealing hush money payments and signed checks reimbursing per Michael Cohen regarding Donald Trump and the Trump Organization, was under investigation by the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York for a possible role in concealing hush money payments made by Michael Cohen to two women on Donald Trump's behalf." R2 (bleep) 21:09, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Ahrtoodeetoo: Is this it?

As of February 2019, Weisselberg was under investigation by the Southern District of New York for a possible role in concealing hush money payments and signed checks reimbursing per Michael Cohen regarding Donald Trump and the Trump Organization, was under investigation by the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York for a possible role in concealing hush money payments made by Michael Cohen to two women on Donald Trump's behalf.^[1]^[2]

X1\ (talk) 20:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I added some language reflecting my proposal in the context of the existing article (less my careless editing errors). R2 (bleep) 20:46, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Ahrtoodeetoo: so you are suggesting this (below) instead, without the other reference?

As of February 2019, Weisselberg was under investigation by the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York for a possible role in concealing the hush money payments.^[3]

X1\ (talk) 21:15, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm suggesting what I added. The current source sufficiently verifies the content. The other source doesn't say Weisselberg is under investigation. I don't understand why you reverted. Also, please, no more pings. R2 (bleep) 21:47, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b ^c "Tracking 29 Investigations Related to Trump". NYTimes.com. May 23, 2019. Retrieved May 24, 2019. {{cite web}}: Cite uses deprecated parameter |authors= (help)
^ "Even as President, Trump Focused on Hush Money, Cohen Says". NYTimes.com. February 27, 2019. Retrieved June 14, 2019. {{cite web}}: Cite uses deprecated parameter |authors= (help)
^ "Even as President, Trump Focused on Hush Money, Cohen Says". NYTimes.com. February 27, 2019. Retrieved June 14, 2019. {{cite web}}: Cite uses deprecated parameter |authors= (help)

Tax fraud[edit]

It's not clear in the article if it was the IRS he defrauded, or the State of New York, or both in his tax fraud trial. Could someone add clarity to that? Juneau Mike (talk) 22:33, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure ... you can if you find something to be unclear. Jibal (talk) 04:28, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Jibal. Talk Pages are for editors to suggest improvements to articles. It isn't necessary for editors who see a needed change to make that change personally. I don't have experience in fleshing out articles about corrupt accountants who represent corrupt businessmen and politicians. The rules regarding Talk Pages state that - an editor suggesting a change need not make that change themselves, if they believe other editors can better make said changes. I am, however, very familiar with the rules regarding editors being welcoming, and assuming good faith. Those tenets are, personally, essential to my Wikipedia experience. Juneau Mike (talk) 05:14, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mike, a state can't prosecute federal crimes, unless it has the same exact law. Taxes are different between state and federal level, inherently it falls under state law. Also, he is in Rikers Island, a state prison, so it was under state law. 174.197.64.170 (talk) 12:50, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[29investigations-1] "Tracking 29 Investigations Related to Trump". NYTimes.com. May 23, 2019. Retrieved May 24, 2019. {{cite web}}: Cite uses deprecated parameter |authors= (help)

[2] "Even as President, Trump Focused on Hush Money, Cohen Says". NYTimes.com. February 27, 2019. Retrieved June 14, 2019. {{cite web}}: Cite uses deprecated parameter |authors= (help)

[3] "Even as President, Trump Focused on Hush Money, Cohen Says". NYTimes.com. February 27, 2019. Retrieved June 14, 2019. {{cite web}}: Cite uses deprecated parameter |authors= (help)

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