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The Soviet War, Islamic State and Taliban Emirate periods are three very important parts of Afghan history. You cannot belittle them by simply putting them as one section. Also, the information given by the version you keep restoring is heavily misleading (to say the least). The episode of the "Democratic Republic and Saur Revolution" is not that important like the parts you keep erasing and they make a huge part of the history section. Operation Enduring Freedom has an own section. Yet you concentrate only on the Soviet War, Islamic State and Taliban Emirate. The question that springs to mind is, why is that? JCAla 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Done: I am going to assume that someone already corrected this as they are separate now. This post is from 2010, so changes may have been made. So as of now I am assuming this is done.84singh84 (talk) 04:10, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

book

The central Asian Arabs of Afghanistan: pastoral nomadism in transition By Thomas Jefferson Barfield — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.204.45.116 (talk • contribs) 05:20, 19 January 2011

Why did you post a book name? Has this source been used in the article?84singh84 (talk) 04:12, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Please do not use the {{edit semi-protected}} tag unless there is a specific request to edit the article. —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:06, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Etymology of Afghanistan

The real etymology of the word ‘Afghanistan’ is as follows. The country of Afghanistan was once a Hindu Kingdom and one of the 16 Mahajanapads,i.e.,princely states of the Bharathavarsha or BharathaKhanda which is today known simply as Bharat or India. During those historical times the people of the country Afghanistan were known to the other princely Kingdoms of the Bharat or India as Upaganas meaning the ‘sub-tribes’ in the then widespread official or the regal language Sanskrit. Naturally the place of the Upaganas were called as Upaganastana, again the suffix ‘stana’ in Sanskrit means ‘place’. The others in the western side of Upaganastana, especially Persians might have been referring to this land and its people as Uphghanstan and Uphghans, which later during the periods of the Islamic raids took the forms as ‘Afghanistan’ and ‘Afghans’ respectively. Its the same with the etymology of the name of the city ‘Khandahar’ whose root is ‘Gandhara’ which appears many times in the Hindu Mythology like Ramayana and Mahabharatha that dates back to 8th or 9th century BC which cannot be ignored. However, the precise history of all these seemingly obvious facts are hard to find as the Islamisation of the land would have destroyed most of the records of its pre-Islamic times, as is the case with the Islamic conquest of Persia. A thorough research on the subject to find the specific historical evidences is recommended. For further readings Afghan Hindu Association of America, Jihad against India,

Not done: You still need a valid source my friend. Blaming Islam is not going to help. If this was true, numerous authors would have printed sources on this. The readings you posted are by Hindu radicals. Wish you luck finding a valid source, cheers!! 84singh84 (talk) 03:51, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Western Influence

As the edit privileges for the article are locked, could some one amend the year in the sentence "He was replaced in 1953 by Mohammed Daoud Khan, the king's cousin and brother-in-law" to 1973. Seems to be a typo. Nalaiyath (talk) 06:02, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Done: Minor edit only. —84singh84Talk 11:45, 04 April 2013 (UTC)

Hell, I think 1953 is correct and 1973 is incorrect. Read Shah Mahmud Khan, he was replaced in 1953 by the king's cousin and brother-in-law. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22 Male Cali (talk • contribs) 14:34, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Sunni sect

Hi, I think someone successfully tried to put something wrong inside (vandalism ?) 

 Over 99% of the Afghan population is Muslim: approximately 80–85% follow the Sunni sect[...]

is the word "sect" mandatory ?

Cheers ;) Happy-marmotte (talk) 18:21, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Done: Hey, So I edited it so that it reads this:

"Over 99% of the Afghan population is Muslim: approximately 80–85% are from the Sunni branch..." The reason why I added branch was because many non-Muslims don't know what a Sunni is. So by adding branch, they will understand that it is a sub-group. Cheers! 84singh84 (talk) 01:49, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

"are from the Sunni branch..." reads as if this refers to a race or ethnic group. Islam is generally recognized as a two sects religion (Sunni and Shia). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22 Male Cali (talk • contribs) 14:37, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

opium production

changes need to the article, opium production claims are out of date and record crops are predicted

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/15/afghanistan-expectations-record-opium-crop

Opium cultivation is up for the third successive year, and production is heading towards record levels," said Jean-Luc Lemahieu, Afghanistan head of the UN Office on Drugs and Crime. "People are hedging against an insecure future both politically and economically."

Just 14 of Afghanistan's 34 provinces are now "poppy free", down from 20 in 2010. In three provinces, the spring sowing was the first time this decade that farmers had risked an attempt at growing opium.


a.thomson 29/4/201381.97.206.7 (talk) 07:34, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

2nd paragraph, 1st sentence

Please change "has been a focal point" to "was a focal point." The passive voice both sounds bad and is inappropriate in that particular usage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grimessm (talk • contribs) 21:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Independence?

In the infobox, it says 1919, independence from the UK. But how? Afghanistan was never part of the British Empire and was never colonized. Isn't it supposed to be reaffirmation of the Durand Line or declared independence? --AFGstyla20 (talk) 14:42, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Demonym

Out of interest, why is there no source attached to the demonym provided in the infobox? I always thought "Afghanistani" was the preferred demonym for people from Afghanistan, c.f. "Kazakhstani" vs "Kazakh", "Turkmenistani" vs "Turkmen", "Uzbekistani" vs "Uzbek", etc. while "Afghan" was more of an ethnonym. Because of this confusion, I think it would be in everyone's best interests to source this info. – PeeJay 11:52, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Khilji dynasty

It makes no sense to remove this particular dynasty from the lead. It is well established that they had long settled on this land (Afghanistan), just like Babur and his Kabul-born children (founders of the Mughal Empire in India), and then went to India to form an empire.--Fareed30 (talk) 19:55, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

The text in the article says that Afghanistan was the source of Khilji dynasty, while you are saying that they "settled" there, both are quite different. -- SMS Talk 20:25, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
That's called misinterpretation. It states: "The land also served as a source from which the Greco-Bactrians, Kushans, Hephthalites, Samanids, Saffarids, Ghaznavids, Ghorids, Khiljis, Mughals, Durranis, Hotakis and others have risen to form major empires.[12]" Where does it mention "Afghanistan was the source of Khilji dynasty"? The point is that members of the listed dynasties were either born in what is now Afghanistan, grew up or were brought up there, and then formed empires. For example, Babur was born in Central Asia (Fergana, Uzbekistan to be exact), he spent 20 years in Afghanistan and then conquered the Pakistan-Northern India region, forming the Mughal Empire. Similarly, the Khiljis came down from Central Asia and have long settled in Afghanistan [1], and then established an empire in Northern India.--Fareed30 (talk) 20:40, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Did I enclose it in quotation marks like you did? Calling the land of Afghanistan as a source of Khilji dynasty means that it originated from there while it didn't, even the Britannica source you presented says the same. -- SMS Talk 21:26, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Again, "The land also served as a source from which the Greco-Bactrians, Kushans, Hephthalites, Samanids, Saffarids, Ghaznavids, Ghorids, Khiljis, Mughals, Durranis, Hotakis and others have risen to form major empires. You seem to be having trouble understanding this. Britannica, which is considered one of the leading authoritive academic sources, states that Khilji tribe has long been settled in Afghanistan, a land that has been home to many people from various origins. Khiljis ruled their empire from Delhi in India but they were not Indians or people from Turkey. They were from Afghanistan, whether they were born inside Afghanistan or in Central Asia is not important for this concerned line. This article is about a country (a territory).
  • You said "while it didn't", that proves that you don't even know this dynasty. If you did you wouldn't be removing it from the list and saying such things.--Fareed30 (talk) 23:17, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

The Pearson CSAT Manual 2012, Edgar Thorpe, pg. HK-63.

The Adventures of Ibn Battuta, a Muslim Traveler of the Fourteenth Century, Ross E. Dunn, pg. 185.--Fareed30 (talk) 23:35, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Which region does the country belong to

Isn't Afghanistan a Central Asian country? some world bodies like in the USA are calling it South Asian others even call it Middle Eastern, I don't think its from either of the two regions. 175.110.230.50 (talk) 13:11, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I think Afghanistan should be considered Central Asian over South Asia, I've found another citation (http://www.lse.ac.uk/study/informationForInternationalStudents/countryRegion/centralAsia/centralAsia.aspx)

Some countries such as Turkey state Afghanistan is in the Middle East. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.215.94 (talk) 20:50, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit request

Shouldn't Dari be placed first before Pashto under the Official Languages? Dari is more widely spoken, and is the dominant language of Afghanistan, unlike Pashto. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan#Languages) It doesn't make sense to put the second popular language first 90.196.215.94 (talk) 20:47, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. Also, please provide a relaible source for any factual change. (Wikipedia is not a reliable source.) Thanks, Celestra (talk) 05:18, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Please change South asia in Central asia or south-central asia or heart of asia

Afghanistan was always considered as part of Central asia if you look at old Wikipedia pages when Afghanistan was recognized as part of Central asia and south-central asia please make this change! please change Geographic location south asia to south-central asia

about the the geographic location of Afghanistan and his position in asia on wikipedia it says Afghanistan is part of south asia. I am an Afghan historian and i want a change in this: please change south asia to south-central asia or Central asia , Heart of asia Afghanistan is only politically connected to south asia it's member of the south asian organization SAARC but that doesn't mean they are part of it or that it lies in south asia Afghanistan is more culturally connected to central asia then south asia. Most of the Afghans are from the Iranic race and the other half is Turkic/mongolian they have a other clothing/food/music/language branch ( afghans speak Iranian languages)/sub-race. Afghanistan is only connected to North-western Pakistan in south asia and that is because those people who live in north-western pakistan are Pashtuns an iranic tribe which is culturally connected to Afghanistan and it was part of Afghanistan till the 19th century But Afghanistan was historically a country which connected West and central asia to south asia, the famous passes which led to south asia were the Khyber-pass in the hindukush mountains and the Bolan pass in the suleyman mountains these were the borders between south asia and central asia. India,pakistan,nepal, Bangladesh etc. these are the real south asian countries who speak indo-aryan languages and were historically connected and are culturally connected. Afghanistan was never a puppet or part of British india or india. Please can you take my request seriously, sorry for my bad english, i am looking forward for an answer so please change south asia to south-central asia

Okay the UN says iran and Afghanistan belong also to South asian continent then why wikipedia has only Afghanistan counted as south asia and why not Iran also ?! please make this change from south asia to south-central asia

Sources: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/7798/Afghanistan http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/266291/Hindu-Kush https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khyber_Pass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolan_Pass books.google.nl/books?isbn=1741791480 page 16 and 470 Greg Bloom, Paul Clammer 2000 isbn 1741791480 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_peoples

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_plateau look at this source the whole iranian plateau ( kurdistan, Afghanistan, iran and western parts of Pakistan the ones who border Afghanistan and iran) is considered as Central asia and Western asia. so please make this change — Preceding unsigned comment added by Feysalafghan (talk • contribs) 13:41, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2013

Dear wikipedia and wikipedia users I want to discuss about the the geographic location of Afghanistan and his position in asia on wikipedia it says Afghanistan is part of south asia. I am an Afghan historian and i want a change in this: please change south asia to south-central asia or Central asia , Heart of asia Afghanistan is only politically connected to south asia it's member of the south asian organization SAARC but that doesn't mean they are part of it or that it lies in south asia Afghanistan is more culturally connected to central asia then south asia. Most of the Afghans are from the Iranic race and the other half is Turkic/Mongolian they have a other clothing/food/music/language branch (Afghans speak Iranian languages)/sub-race. Afghanistan is only connected to North-western Pakistan in south asia and that is because those people who live in north-western Pakistan are Pashtuns an Iranic tribe which is culturally connected to Afghanistan and it was part of Afghanistan till the 19th century But Afghanistan was historically a country which connected West and central asia to south asia, the famous passes which led to south asia were the Khyber-pass in the Hindukush mountains and the Bolan pass in the Suleyman mountains these were the borders between south asia and central asia. India, Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh etc. these are the real south asian countries who speak Indo-aryan languages and were historically connected and are culturally connected. Afghanistan was never a puppet or part of British India or India. Please can you take my request seriously, sorry for my bad English, I am looking forward for an answer please change south asia to south-central asia Sources: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/7798/Afghanistan http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/266291/Hindu-Kush https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khyber_Pass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolan_Pass books.google.nl/books?isbn=1741791480 page 16 and 470 Greg Bloom, Paul Clammer 2000 isbn 1741791480

Feysalafghan (talk) 13:28, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template.. (I see you've already begun a separate discussion below.) You'll want to cite some better sources than the ones you listed above. (We can't cite other Wikipedia articles (see WP:CIRCULAR, we avoid using other tertiary sources such as Britannica when reliable secondary sources exist, and the Lonely Planet guides are useful, fun books but not scholarly or definitive when it comes to delineating regional nomenclature.) I note that the Definitions section of the South Asia article suggests that the boundaries South Asia are not very well defined, but we do have an article on it, while South-central Asia lacks its own article (it's a redirect to South Asia). Rivertorch (talk) 05:56, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2014

the percentage of hazaras population are 22% not 11%

Thanks 58.108.192.31 (talk) 07:07, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

And do you have a source for that figure? -- SMS Talk 07:27, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Central asia or South asia

We know that there are a lot of discussions about Afghanistan bla bla bla

conclusion: Afghanistan is culturally connected and Ethnically connected to Western asia and Central asia. Afghanistan is politically connected to South asia since 2007 when it joined SAARC

So we made it to Afghanistan is part of Central Asia, South asia, and extent Western asia the UN says iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India , nepal, bhutan, maldives, Bangladesh is part of Geographic location South asia but if this is your reference then you should change iran also to South asia and not West Central Asia

so everyone is happy but actually Afghanistan nor of them if you look at old books it will say 'the heart of Asia' , Central asia and ' A country between Central asia and South asia. The british described it as a country ( Emirate of Afghanistan) between Central asia( Tsaar's russian empire) and South asia ( British India) look at Emirate of Afghanistan or just google Afghanistans Heart of asia you all can search this up.

Don't change this anymore we don't want revert wars!!

Fact about Afghanistan: -Afghanistan was never part of South asia but since 2007 it is part of SAARC a south asian - Afghans are from the iranic race not like pakistanis, indians etc. these groups are Indo-aryan - We don't have similar clothes we don't wear lungees panjabis clothings, saris and other south asian clothes - Our language is not Indo-aryan but is belongs to Iranian languages (Pashto and Farsi) and the other languages (uzbek and turkmen) are Turkic - We drive on the right side not on the left side!!! - We were never part of British India - We don't eat spicey food Afghan food is traditionally non spicey we don't eat dhaal, chapati etc - South Asian border were historically the Indus river in the West till the Bengal areas ( modern Bangladesh), From the Himalayas in the North to the Indian ocean in the South - We are not Desi Pakistanis and indian etc are!!! - Afghanistan is not part of the Indian subcontinent and never was - We had our own religion called zoroastrianism and was also active in Iran the Mongolians and Indian travellers brought Buddhism to Eastern Afghanistan to the Kabul shahi ( Kabul and some other cities around) Hinduism was also in Afghanistan but not when the Iranians ( Pashtuns and Persians) migrated to this country - We don't have Indian rail gauge like in South asia - We don' have miles but Kilometers And Guys Pakistan just has the suffix -stan because of this : P stands for Panjab, A= Afghania, K= Kashmir, Stan= is for balochistan the i pakistan the british added to sound it better and now people say it because pak means clean. so it is 'cleanland' look up Pakistan's name - Afghanistan doesn't speak Urdu/hindi - Hisorically was never part of South asia/ indian subcontinent

All of this is very true. Afghanistan has never been part considered South Asian until it joined the SAARC. Many Afghan books, as well Arabic, Iranian and Turkish books also indicate Afghanistan is in "Sharq-e-Myana" - Middle East

Afghanistan is Middle Eastern as it shares close ties with neighbouring Iran - both nations speak the same language, and have almost identical cultures. South Asia is associated with countries that were part of British India - something Afghanistan was never part of.

Additionally, Afghanistan may be regarded Central Asian to a smaller extent, as Central Asian nations (with the exception of Turkmenistan) are landlocked states.

PLEASE REMOVE AFGHANISTAN AS UNDER SOUTH ASIA, AS IT IS SOUTH ASIA TO A MINOR EXTENT: IT SHOULD BE ORDERED AS "MIDDLE eAST, cENTRAL aSIA AND TO A SMALL EXTENT SOUTH ASIA" OR "CENTRAL ASIA, MIDDLE EAST, AND TO A SMALL EXTENT SOUTH ASIA"

Thank you very much for your understanding — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.207.77.125 (talk) 21:24, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

etc etc etc..... too many things to say — Preceding unsigned comment added by Feysalafghan (talk • contribs) 21:13, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2014

Hi. I want to edit this page because I found an external source which expounds on Afghanistan in detail and want to add it to the external links. This page introduces Afghanistan's economy, business, trade, culture and others. Thank you! King1336 (talk) 08:49, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Please read the external links guidelines and if you feel that the link meets the criteria there, then please provide the link on this talkpage. Green Giant (edits) (talk) 09:14, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Afghanistan is stated in the Middle East by: http://www.totalmarketingmiddleeast.com/en/total-uae.html

It has also been classified as 'Central Asian' under these sources: http://www.lse.ac.uk/study/informationForInternationalStudents/countryRegion/centralAsia/centralAsia.aspx http://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/international/countries/central-asia

Thank you :) 90.207.77.125 (talk) 21:17, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

 Not done for two reasons:
  1. The first sentence of the article makes it clear that Afghanistan forms part of all three regions (Central, South and Western Asia).
  2. Your sources are not reliable:
  • the first one belongs to an oil company (hardly a bastion of knowledge in this matter)
  • the other two are just LSE and UCL's way of grouping their international students. Just because they are academic institutions doesn't automatically make those pages into reliable sources for Wikipedia purposes. Green Giant (edits) (talk) 21:39, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2014

64.229.19.233 (talk) 16:17, 15 February 2014 (UTC) [[Talk:Afghanistan|Your due date is --64.229.19.233 (talk) 16:17, 15 February 2014 (UTC)]]

Click this flag and see this mosque or mirhab.
I don't find an edit request here. Kindly describe the change/edit you want to do in the form of "change X to Y" below or file a new request, so someone can do it on your behalf. Thanks -- SMS Talk 16:22, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Speculative motivation deleted

The notion that the Soviets didn't have "a warm water port" and that propelled their incursion into Afghanistan is without foundation. The Soviets always had Murmansk, a subarctic port kept ice-free by the Atlantic current, and also had a port in Crimea, on the Black Sea. Activist (talk) 19:21, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2014

74.76.139.166 (talk) 13:54, 5 April 2014 (UTC)Change the native language included at the top from Persian to Afghan Persian, or Dari, which is one of their official languages. Saying Persian gives the feeling that they are Iranian.

Are you referring to the translations of "Afghanistan" that appear in the first parts of the article? If so, you'll need to provide new translations in the different languages you've requested, as well as reliable sources to verify the accuracy of the translation and pronunciation. If you're referring to something different in the article, please be more specific and make your request in the form of "Change X to Y". Thanks, --ElHef (Meep?) 14:32, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit Request - Include information regarding Opium production/Trade

Can't help but notice the suspiciously blatant omission of ANY mention of opium in the article. It's possible I missed it, but I scoured the Economy section pretty thoroughly and saw no mention of it even though MANY sources indicate that opium production constitutes over 10% of the nation's GDP. Therefor, as a minimum, I'd like to insert the following:

Many sources indicate that as much as 11% or more of Afghanistan's economy is derived from the cultivation and sale of opium, and Afghanistan is widely considered the world's largest producer of opium despite Afghan government and international efforts to eradicate the crop.[1][2]

(Not sure how the refs will work as I cut and pasted them. They show up when I edit, but the links don't seem to work, so here are the linked URLs: http://www.unodc.org/pdf/publications/afg_opium_economy_www.pdf, and https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/af.html)

Frankly, if someone had the time and inclination, Opium should probably be added as its own subheading under Economy or at least discussed in more detail under Agriculture. Mikerrr (talk) 15:00, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://www.unodc.org/pdf/publications/afg_opium_economy_www.pdf
  2. ^ https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/af.html

Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2014

|FSI_category = Alert |sovereignty_type = Independence from Persia |established_event1 = First Afghan state |established_date1 = April 1709

I would like to you to please change the part where its stated "Independence from Persia" Afghanistan was never fully under the control of the Persian empire, only two main cities those being Herat and Kandahar. With Kabul and south eastern Afghanistan being under the control of the Moghul empire whilst the rest were in mini kingdoms having their own rulers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotaki_dynasty

p.s. I am a history Professor in the university of Kings College London Simonz12 (talk) 23:51, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Not done for now: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request. Wikipedia is not a reliable source, but given your position you must know of, or be able to find, a reliable source. - Arjayay (talk) 08:39, 4 May 2014 (UTC) here he here he...lol....gotta love me....

Turkmens in Afghanistan

The population of turkmens which is mentioned by wikipedia doesnot tells the truth as we know 37% of balkh province are turkmens balkh city which is 4th largest.again in jawzjan about 68% are turkmens,also there are turkmens in parwan province e.g dar e turkmen,in faryab province e.g dowlat abad,andkhoy etc,in kunduz e.g.imam sahib and qala zal,in baglan e.g.barfak,in kabul,in helmend,in herat border to turkmenistan,in badgis border to turkmenistan,in takhar etc.our statistic shows that there are 3 to 3.5 million turkmen living in afghanistan and making 4 to 6% of overall population kindly please check and correct.

BY:ATBC TO:wikipedia editor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.153.41.196 (talk) 09:46, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2014

I would like to see the population of Afghanistan updated from the currently listed, 31,108,077 to the more up to date 31,822,848 as stated on: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/af.html 203.94.32.48 (talk) 10:21, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Done —Mr. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:04, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Errors

Missing the word "later" in "On 9 September 2001, Ahmad Shah Massoud was assassinated by two Al-Qaeda Arab suicide attackers inside Afghanistan and two days the September 11 attacks were carried out by the Al-Qaeda organization."

Need a space after the period, and choose one of "during" or "in": " 2009, a Taliban-led shadow government began to form in many parts of the country[113] and US President Barack Obama announced that the U.S. would deploy another 30,000 U.S. soldiers to the country during in 2010 for a period of two years.In"

Word should be "rogue" instead of "rouge" and missing the word "action" after "military": "The United States warned the Pakistani government of possible military within Pakistan if the government refused to attack these forces in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas[116] as the United States blamed rouge elements within the Pakistani government for the increased attacks."

This dated summary should come before the 2001 terrorist attacks: "From 1990 to September 2001 400,000 Afghan civilians died in the wars in Afghanistan.[104]"

Missing "the" in front of "Afghan Government": "Meanwhile Afghan government was able to build some democratic structures and on December 7, 2004 the country changed its name to the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan."

US$2 billion is improperly stated, better to say "US $2 billion" or better yet "$2 billion USD": "US$2 billion"

I gave up here.

Wikipedia editors: you guys are so fast to make sure that edits to Spider-man and so forth are all correct and coherent, and this locked article, you cannot even do a basic grammar check. You're going to go on parade every month with the cyber-begging for funds, and what is an essential and important article about a keystone country that has broken empires and seen trillions of dollars of western money poured at it, you don't have time to even proof read. This article is an embarrassment to this site, for the hasty and careless treatment of the subject matter. It stands as a waving flag about Wikipedia being a hobby encyclopedia. Really, I am not so surprised that Spider-man has more resources devoted to "keeping it clean" than Afghanistan, due to the nature of the kind of person who wants to devote all their free time to making sure that other people follow the rules here. But if you want to be taken seriously, you really need to pay attention to some of the basics that say, an absolutely casual reader and non-contributor to Wikipedia can flag in a 5 minute reading. You should be ashamed of yourselves for the attention you place on meaningless trivia when articles devoted to serious issues are ignored or treated carelessly. Shame. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.46.48.130 (talk) 23:20, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

I made the above suggested corrections, except keeping "US$", as it is a commonly used abbreviation (e.g., [2]). Tdslk (talk) 18:54, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

RFC: edit warring over Dari v. Persian at Languages of Afghanistan

For the past few weeks, some editors have been replacing Dari (Persian dialect) with Persian, even though both this page and the Dari page list Dari as the official name. Please weigh in on the issue at Talk:Languages_of_Afghanistan#More_edit-warring_on_the_languages. Thanks. Aristophanes68 (talk) 15:23, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2014

Afghanistan is stated as a 'non-Arab country in the Middle East': http://www.ide.go.jp/English/Links/middle_east2.html

Therefore, Afghanistan should be defined as being as part of the Middle East as well. 2.125.124.178 (talk) 15:52, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for helping out. I believe your request might be accurate, but as stated in the template, using {{edit semi-protected}} is for when you have a specific request to make. In other words, please say verbatim the edit you would like to make. (The reason for this is because editors from outside of this article may come in and assess your request, such as myself, and they need to know exactly what you want them to do.) Once you do that, you can change |answered=yes back to |answered=no in order to re-open the request. Thanks! — Parent5446 ☯ (msg email) 20:13, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

"Very long"?

Is the History section "very long" as tagged? If so, what are issues that make the section very long? --George Ho (talk) 05:20, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2014

Afghanistan's geographic locale needs to be edited to being part of the Middle East too: http://www.ide.go.jp/English/Links/middle_east2.html

Please change its locarion, Thanks 2.216.31.236 (talk) 10:36, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Not done: see Middle East Cannolis (talk) 13:34, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Pronounciation

The cited pronounciation is dubious - very American. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gurre (talk • contribs) 18:37, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2014

151.232.114.59 (talk) 07:46, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 07:52, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

POV pushing edits

I have reverted this edit because the editor (Lysozym) didn't give a reason for removing the following cited information "By 1713, Mir Wais had decisively defeated two larger Persian armies, one led by Khusraw Khán and the other by Rustam Khán. The armies were sent by Sultan Husayn, the Shah of Persia, to re-take control of the Kandahar region." It also keeps changing "Dari" to "Dari Persian", this issue has been resolved at Talk:Languages_of_Afghanistan#More_edit-warring_on_the_languages, concluding that we use "Dari". But the bigger problem is Lysozym keeps adding that Afghanistan means land of Pashtuns. This is not supported by the cited sources, they only mention land of Afghans.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 22:37, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

  • Lysozym deleted from the Etymology section "The Constitution of Afghanistan states that "[t]he word Afghan shall apply to every citizen of Afghanistan."[3]
  • Lysozym keeps adding "origianlly with the meaning "land of the Pashtuns" and referring to a much smaller region south of the Hindu Kush mountains." The two cited sources, however, do not support the statement. This is POV pushing and must be reverted.

The first cited source (E.J. Brill's first encyclopaedia of Islam 1913-1936) states "the land of the Afghans, a limited territory which did not include many parts of the present state but did comprise large districts now either independent or within the boundary of British India."[4] This (British India) is obviously referring to a territory which is now called Pakistan and India, including Jammu and Kashmir. The second one is from a 16th century writing by Babur that only says "To the south is Afghanistān" but it doesn't say anything about the size of the country. He (Babur) could be referring to the entire area governed by the Afghan Lodi dynasty (look at the map in that article [5]). Regarding the size of Afghanistan, we look to what experts have said. In 1857, Friedrich Engels describes "Afghanistan" as: [[6]]

"an extensive country of Asia ... between Persia and the Indies, and in the other direction between the Hindu Kush and the Indian Ocean. It formerly included the Persian provinces of Khorassan and Kohistan, together with Herat, Beluchistan, Cashmere, and Sinde, and a considerable part of the Punjab ... Its principal cities are Kabul, the capital, Ghuznee, Peshawer, and Kandahar."

This clearly proves that Afghanistan was much bigger but became smaller in 1893 when the Durand Line was established, which dived the Afghan tribes. The 2nd sentence in the Etymology section states "The root name "Afghan" was used historically in reference to the Pashtun people",[7] so there's no need to repeat the same statement in the same section.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 18:58, 13 October 2014 (UTC)


Sultankhan

i want free visa for afganistan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.107.142.206 (talk) 07:47, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2014

Afghanistan is classfied as a West Asian (Middle Eastern) nation:

https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2006/ref/rp-guides/visible_minority-minorites_visibles-eng.cfm http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/89-621-x/89-621-x2007003-eng.htm

Can you please add this to Afghanistan's geographic locale.

Thanks 2.216.30.129 (talk) 20:12, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure that noting that Statistic Canada has classified Afghanistan as West Asian (Middle Eastern) is entirely notable. The article does mention twice that it is Middle Eastern. Stickee (talk) 01:30, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

The "Etymology" section of this article is very difficult to read

"The name Afghānistān (Persian: افغانستان‎, [avɣɒnestɒn]) Afghan is a persian version for the citizens of Afghanistan, Khorasan name was changed by British to Afghanistan in 1893 and Afghan became national identity of every tribe of this land in August 1919, older version of awghan which is documented in the 10th-century geography book Hudud ul-'alam.[17] The root name "Awghan" was used historically in reference to the Kuchi people,by native kabulis who are descendants of Sassanian empire, and the suffix "-stan" means "place of" in Persian. Therefore, Afghanistan translates to "land of the Afghans,[18][19] originally an ill-defined territory which did not include many parts of the present state but did comprise large districts now within the boundary of Pakistan.[20][21] The Constitution of Afghanistan states that "[t]he word Afghan shall apply to every citizen of Afghanistan."[22]"

Is there anyone knowledgeable about this topic who can clear up this paragraph? Hza a 9 (talk) 23:47, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

% of ethnicity and langauge needs to be corrected.

Some data given on Afghanistan is not accurate, for example, the % of each ethnic group and the language. It either should be corrected based on some reliable references or should be noted properly that there is no base for these percentages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.201.210.196 (talk) 05:36, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

"Afghani" Demonym

I noticed in the article sidebar that the primary demonym for someone from Afghanistan is 'Afghan', but there's a footnote citing Dictionary.com which says that 'Afghani' is also used. I remember someone in history class, I believe an Afghan himself, saying that 'Afghani' is the Afghan currency. Using it to describe a person is akin to using 'Frenchie', although not nearly as offensive as 'Paki' would be (despite their similarities). Can some Afghans either corroborate or refute this? There's a debate on the subject here and I'm sure in many other places on the Internet. Perhaps the article should reflect this? BordenRhodes (talk) 22:40, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request

The article states that the current Afghan government consists of a post of Prime Minister. The Afghan government has a post of Chief Executive, not Prime Minister. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trueafghan (talk • contribs) 22:14, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

 Done - we even have an article Chief Executive Officer (Afghanistan) - Arjayay (talk) 18:42, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2015

In the right-hand pane with basic information on Afghanistan - please switch around the order in which the two languages are listed. Dari-Persian and other dialects of Persian is the most commonly spoken language in Afghanistan and this Wikipedia page misleads people into believing Pashto is the main language of Afghanistan. I have had many non-Afghan people ask me if Pashto is the language and I always say no, not everyone speaks Pashto, Persian is more commonly spoken. Now I can see where they probably obtained their incorrect information from. Here is a source for you to justify this: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/7798/Afghanistan/226122/Languages

99.248.130.17 (talk) 23:49, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Done: According to Languages of Afghanistan, Dari is more common so I put it first. Stickee (talk) 00:09, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Afghanistan was once a HIndu kingdom - proof

For years I have been asking u rulers on this page to write that BEFORE Islam came into the region, Afghanistan was once a HIndu Kingdom going back to Ancient times. It was part of Ancient India. But because most of you are bias and hate India, you wont allow it unless I have some "expert" write an article on it. But every example I gave is not considered good, so I found one from CNN. Is that good enough? Here is the link : http://report.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1191286 96.251.46.221 (talk) 08:59, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for attaching the link, but this is not a report from CNN, it is a viewer-submitted opinion piece which is clearly marked "Not verified by CNN" in the left-hand toolbar. I don't doubt that the contents of the report are the genuine opinion of its author, but it doesn't count as a reliable secondary source for the claims it makes regarding Afghanistan. -- Euryalus (talk) 09:10, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Can I ask you a question? Afghaistan is right next to India. It has the same looking people. And before Islam came there were HIndu kingdoms. And there are still people who are Hindu in Afghanistan. And yet, people like you still dont want to admit that Afghanistan was once part of Ancient India. Why? Are you anti India? Anti Hindu? Please tell me what is it exactly about some people on wikipedia that just dont want to admit how old or ancient India is? Im asking you an honest question cus this kind of denial of Indian history happens alot. I mean do you think before Islam came it was just all empty land? Or what? Hinduism is the oldest religion (according to wikipedia) HInduism comes from India, and India is right by Afghanistan and we know Hindu people live in India and we know that Afghan people are pretty much the same as Indian people in terms of ancestory. 96.251.46.221 (talk) 06:49, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

SAME looking people? I'm sorry to rain on your parade bro, but Afghans look completely different from Indians on a whole. The 2 groups shouldn't even be mentioned together. Forget religion, the different languages, culture, food, clothing and so forth is entirely different from that of India's. Not to mention the Pashtuns are Indo-Iranians while Indians on a whole are a mixture of a Austroloid-Dravidian population. Your closest relatives are Pakistani people who you share a similar culture and resemblance too and both of you see each other as "Desi's." Also Afghanistan was never part of India since the country itself was created in 1947 and before that it was an area ruled by scattered kingdoms that didn't even rule past the indus river. To be honest, you sound like a Hinducentric right about now. Akmal94 (talk) 02:50, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I agree with akmal94, I am becoming very aggrevated by how Wikipedia keeps defining Afghanistan as South asian when it is central Asian (source: Britannica) and Afghanistan is not next to India, sorry to burst your weak bubble so please do not fill this page with spam. please add Afghanistan under central Asia only and to clarify again Afghanistan was never a Hindu empire. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.48.175 (talk) 22:55, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Map of Afghanistan

I think it would be better to have a map that actually shows afghanistan's border with Iran too. I find it shocking how this image shows India which doesn't border Afghanistan and fails to include Iran which borders Afghanistan and is afghanistans closest neighbour in terms of language, culture, history, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.48.175 (talk) 09:10, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2015

The following is a list of all the 34 provinces in alphabetical order:

62.7.90.114 (talk) 16:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Question: This list is already in the article. Is there some change you wish to be made to it? Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 01:30, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 Done - Provided I understood your intention - numbering the list 1-34 not 1-17 + 1-17 ? If not, please explain what you are trying to achieve.
Initially it moved the map underneath, but it is sorted now. Hopefully it works on the mobile version, currently I can't check Arjayay (talk) 09:09, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Afghanistan is Middle Eastern

This source shows that Afghanistan is Southwest Asian, which is the same as Middle Eastern: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.48.175 (talk) 21:33, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/history/canadian-armed-forces/afghanistan

Semi-protected edit request on 23 February 2015

Shouldn't the map of Afghanistan actually display its border with Iran? Iran is its western neighbour but its not shown, however the map shows India which doesn't border Afghanistan - doesn't make logical sense.

Also Dari should be placed ahead of Pashto as Dari is more widely spoken. Its true that 'Pashtuns' speak predominantly Pashto, however Dari is spoken by Tajiks, Hazaras, Uzbeks and Turkmens, which exceeds the total percentage of Pashto speakers.

90.211.48.175 (talk) 20:14, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Apparently there is no consensus to make the change as it stands or the request wasn't clear enough either in what needed to be replaced, what the replacement text should be, or why it is beneficial to the encyclopedia to make the change as requested. Feel free to reopen this request when all of the criteria have been met. Thank you, — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 21:23, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Change: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan#/media/File:Afghanistan_-_Location_Map_(2013)_-_AFG_-_UNOCHA.svg to a map that includes Iran. Afghanistan is more cultrually tied to Iran than to any other neighbors whereas this maps ignores Iran, and includes India - which doesn't border Afghanistan. It would be beneficial to alter the map, by deviaiting it to the left to ensure people can visually see the border between Afghanistan and Iran, rather than zoom in to the East, which hides Iran and shows India - which doesn't make sense.

Change: "Official languages: Pashto Dari" to "Official languages: Dari Pashto", despite Pashtuns being the most ethnically populated, and predominantly speak Pashto, most speak Dari (Farsi), which is the mother tongue of Tajiks, Hazaras, Uzbeks, Turkmens, who are collectively superior than Pashtuns. 50% speak Dari, as opposed to 35% Pashto [1]. It would also be beneficial to write "Dari" as "Dari (Persian)" because Dari is a dialect of Persian. Additionally, as other countries do place the minority languages in the page, it would perhaps be useful to have Uzbek, Turkmen, and possibly Arabic and Turkish too, which are spoken in the North and promoted in schools around Afghanistan.

References

  1. ^ www.afghan-web.com
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Mlpearc (open channel) 22:31, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Afghanistan is also Middle Eastern/West Asian to some extent.

The following sources indicate that Afghanistan's presence in the Middle East should not be ignored and hence included in its page. [1] [2] - select Middle East and you will find that the airlines of Afghanistan are classified under 'Middle East and Africa'

Please do not omit and add to the introduction, that Afghanistan to some extent is Middle Eastern. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.48.175 (talk) 21:02, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/reo/2006/eng/01/mreo0506.pdf
  2. ^ http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pages/airline-list.aspx

Afghanistan is not middle eastern or south asian! It is strictly in Central Asia and shares no borders with the middle east. Also your soruce for an airline website is not reliable.Akmal94 (talk) 02:16, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2015

False etymology. In this revision, one editor (seems a pov-pusher) changed sourced content and replaced "Persian" with "Sanskrit". This is an old pov-pushing and source falsification on this article, usually done by Anti-Persian (Anti-Tajik), Pashtun ethno-centrists, or editors without basic linguistic knowledge. -stan is a pure Persian suffix (read main article) and its cognate sthana is Sanskrit. Completely different. I don't know how this awful edit was not reviewed by other editors?! 188.159.132.24 (talk) 08:46, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 22:15, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Nobod changed anything, and Stan is indeed Sanksirit, not persian. It seems like you have an anti-pashtun stance trying to relate everything to your people and persians without proof to back up your claims.Akmal94 (talk) 02:19, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

The team in the Afghan football photo

The team shown playing Afghanistan is India and not Nepal in the SAFF 2011 photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drd bangal (talk • contribs) 02:21, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Afghanistan is not in South Asia

Regardless of what people on here think, Afghanistan is in Central Asia and shares a cultural sphere with Iran, not Pakistan or India. Its even known by many Afghan historians as in the "heart of asia" and the gateway to india. Clearly not in south asia if its a gateway towards there. Also, i think this link from National Geographic is more then reliable since its from a website which focuses entirely on geography and mentions Afghanistan as a central asian state.

Here is the link: http://stylemanual.ngs.org/home/A/asian

Can this be added in by the admins? Akmal94 (talk) 02:32, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

British Influence during the early 19th C.

I would like to expand on and correct the statement: "By this time the British were advancing from the east and the first major conflict during the "Great Game" was initiated.[67]" It should be made clear that the British had no interest in expanding its influence into Afghanistan other than to protect its interests in its primary colony India. Britain depended on Afghanistan having a stable government that would repel any Russian move to cross Afghanistan with the intention of invading India and wresting it from the British. Concerns that the government of Dost Mohammed might be pro-Russian led to their failed attempt to install the unpopular Shah Shuja on the throne. The article in its current form gives the impression that Britain was simply attempting to expand its colonies at the expense of the Afghan population. yachtpilot. 10th April 15 Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). 'The Great Game' ; Peter Hopkirk.

"British were advancing from the east" means they were expanding from what is now India (which is east) toward what is now Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in Pakistan. These areas in Pakistan were contested between Afghans and Punjabi Sikhs. What British intended at the time is irrelevant.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 10:34, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2015

paragraph 1 is Afghanistan Listeni/æfˈɡænɨstæn/ (Pashto/Dari: افغانستان, Afġānistān), officially the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, is a landlocked country located within South Asia and Central Asia.[8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15] It has a population of approximately 31 million people, making it the 42nd most populous country in the world. It is bordered by Pakistan in the south and east; Iran in the west; Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan in the north; and China in the far northeast. Its territory covers 652,000 km2 (252,000 sq mi), making it the 41st largest country in the world. Human habitation in Afghanistan dates back to the Middle Paleolithic Era,[16] and the country's strategic location along the Silk Road connected it to the cultures of the Middle East and other parts of Asia.[17] Through the ages the land has been home to various peoples[18] and witnessed numerous military campaigns, notably by Alexander the Great, Muslim Arabs, Mongols, British, Soviet Russians, and in the modern-era by Western powers.[16] The land also served as the source from which the Kushans, Hephthalites, Samanids, Saffarids, Ghaznavids, Ghorids, Khiljis, Mughals, Hotaks, Durranis, and others have risen to form major empires.[19]


Populous should change to populated in the sentance: It has a population of approximately 31 million people, making it the 42nd most populous country in the world. making it: Populous should change to populated in the sentance: It has a population of approximately 31 million people, making it the 42nd most populated country in the world.

making paragraph 1:


Afghanistan Listeni/æfˈɡænɨstæn/ (Pashto/Dari: افغانستان, Afġānistān), officially the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, is a landlocked country located within South Asia and Central Asia.[8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15] It has a population of approximately 31 million people, making it the 42nd most populated country in the world. It is bordered by Pakistan in the south and east; Iran in the west; Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan in the north; and China in the far northeast. Its territory covers 652,000 km2 (252,000 sq mi), making it the 41st largest country in the world. Human habitation in Afghanistan dates back to the Middle Paleolithic Era,[16] and the country's strategic location along the Silk Road connected it to the cultures of the Middle East and other parts of Asia.[17] Through the ages the land has been home to various peoples[18] and witnessed numerous military campaigns, notably by Alexander the Great, Muslim Arabs, Mongols, British, Soviet Russians, and in the modern-era by Western powers.[16] The land also served as the source from which the Kushans, Hephthalites, Samanids, Saffarids, Ghaznavids, Ghorids, Khiljis, Mughals, Hotaks, Durranis, and others have risen to form major empires.[19]


Marens101 (talk) 07:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Hi User:Marens101. I don't see a compelling reason favoring "most populated" over "most populous." Merriam-Webster defines populous as "having a large population" and gives an example of "most populous" used in the same context as in this article, so "most populous" appears to be grammatically correct. Furthermore, a quick scan of other country articles (see United States, China, Pakistan, Uzbekistan) seems to favor "populous" over "populated" when referring to relative sizes, so it would be best to keep "populous" for consistency. However, if the other editors of this page see fit to overrule me, I have no objection. Altamel (talk) 21:47, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

HI

HI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.67.83.72 (talk) 19:01, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Small error

In the first paragraph under Governance, vise presidents should be vice presidents.

69.122.239.179 (talk) 19:10, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Warrior 786 continues to edit war

I would like to see reliable sources stating the Saffarids established the first Afghan state(ie. considered as a first ruling dynasty), since Warrior 786 has continued to edit war and ignore using the talk page. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:38, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Afghanistan also known as Khorasan

I would like to add the section of (....in historical context also known as khorasan) but were undone more than 5 times by same 2 or 3 users. As Kansas Bear requested, here is my concern in the talk page and wants to contribute with other fellows. (\\'arrior 786 (talk) 14:46, 2 August 2015 (UTC))

This is just a tale that certain elders tell youngsters in Afghanistan. Because most in Afghanistan never had modern libraries, people just believed whatever elders told them.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 22:52, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2015

Under the Governance section please replace the part... 

The Supreme Court is led by Chief Justice Abdul Salam Azimi, a former university professor who had been a legal advisor to the president.[142]
The Supreme Court is led by Chief Justice Said Yusuf Halem, the former Deputy Minister of Justice for Legal Affairs.

The sources are: [1] [2]

References

  1. ^ http://supremecourt.gov.af/en/page/614/the-supreme-court-chief-justice-biography
  2. ^ http://www.afghan-bios.info/index.php?option=com_afghanbios&id=3158&task=view&total=3197&start=1041&Itemid=2

Thanks. Tld-u (talk) 05:46, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Done -- Sam Sailor Talk! 09:45, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2015

Krzyhorse22 (talk · contribs) started hardcore pov-pushing on this article, removed many sources and falsified facts. [8]. One obvious example he removed a fact by his nonsense personal opinion. His claim is not supported by any historical or etymology sources. Jut his pov-pushing. [9]. He did this with his other socks and ips several times in the past. 188.159.85.156 (talk) 14:39, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

I remove irrelevant wordings that nationalists like you often add in almost every sentence. I removed Persian and Sanskrit from the Etymology section because this is irrelevant as it creates unnecessary debates here, and it is often changed by Iranian and Indian nationalists. I also remove excessive citations, especially when the websites are no longer operational. This is a general article about a country, every section and subsection of it should be brief. All the details belong in the main articles. Since you accused me of being a sock, I think you're User:Malik.223, who is indef-blocked, and also likely Martin.abawi (talk · contribs).--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 16:35, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Not done: This is not an edit request that it's possible to respond to, unless you are asking for a reversal of an established editor. And that's not going to happen. Please discuss the individual changes you would like to see quoting reliable sources rather than opinion, and establish a consensus before filing an edit request. Thank you. Sam Sailor Talk! 11:10, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

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According to Physicians for Human Rights (PHR), "no other regime in the world has methodically and violently forced half of its population into virtual house arrest, prohibiting them on pain of physical punishment."[63]

According to Physicians for Human Rights (PHR), "no other regime in the world has methodically and violently forced half of its population into virtual house arrest, prohibiting them on pain of physical punishment from showing their faces, seeking medical care without a male escort, or attending school." [63]

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Done --allthefoxes (Talk) 06:26, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

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Afghanistan is a fight country

Etymology : Suffix -stan is Persian not Sanskrit

Please correct the Etymology section and beware of other attempts to vandalize this Wikipedia page with Indian/South Asian revisionist bias.

The suffix -stan means "place of" in Persian, Pashto and other Iranian languages spoken in Afghanistan. The -stan in Afghanistan is not derived from Sanskrit. "The root name "Afghan" was used historically in reference to a member of the ethnic Pashtuns, and the suffix "-stan" means "place of" in Sanskrit." In fact, the paragraph said Persian before and someone changed it to Sanskrit. You can review previous history and also check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/-stan and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Afghanistan.

Geographically, Afghanistan is located on the Iranian plateau, not South Asia. Culturally and ethnically, it is closely linked to Iran, Kurdistan and the -stan countries to the north of it (Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan).

Dear Indians/Hindus/South Asians: We have nothing against you and do not care about your religious/ethnic conflicts in South Asia. Yes, present-day India was conquered by people from Afghanistan hundreds of years ago (Muslims) and thousands of years ago (Aryans/Iranians). That was a long time ago. And yet some of you are trying to change history by claiming Afghanistan as part of your own. Is it because you do not want to accept that you were conquered by outsiders? Is it because you do not like the idea that the Aryans, who came to India and influenced your caste system, were not native Indians? Please accept your history and do not try to rewrite ours.

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I'm not Indian. The Persians in Afghanistan pronounce the name with "stan" but the Pashtuns pronounce it with "sthan" like other South Asians. The Pashtuns were historically known as Afghans and they called their country Afghanistan in their own language. See Name_of_Afghanistan#Early_references_to_Afghanistan. Their original country was reshaped in the 19th century following invasions by Sikhs and the British but it still is part of South Asia. All of this suggests that Afghanistan was originally a Sanskrit name like Hindustan but subsequently modified by Persian invaders. Not today's Afghans but the original Afghans are not Persians, they were a different race connected closely to the Indians (i.e., today's Pakistanis and Indians). This has been noted by many historians, e.g., al-Biruni described Afghans as being akin to Indians (South Asians).--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 16:20, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Dear Krzyhorse: Your comments are historically and linguistically inaccurate.. The country has only been known as Afghanistan for hundreds of years and entirely in the context of local Iranian languages. Do you know how old Sanskrit is, when and where it was spoken? Nowhere near the same millenium nor the same country. Not sure what you mean by putting an h after the t but if it is a reference to aspiration, then it is not meaningful. The Pashto language does not have an aspirated vs unaspirated series like Indian languages and it is the same in Persian. (Although aspiration is not phonemic, it can still appear. For example, the name Tom in English also has aspiration as do most occurrences.) The alternative etymology you proposed for -Stan is dubious and not widely accepted, outside of Hindu nationalist circles perhaps. While there may be some Sanskrit word that is related to it, that would only be true because Sanskrit itself is an Indo-European language. (There are German and English words that are also related.) However, usage of -Stan as a place affix was not common for India and does not at all derive from Sanskrit in pretty much every context it is found today, including outside of Afghanistan.. To the limited extent it exists in India today, it is only so because it has been introduced by outsiders. In fact, even Hindustan is a name given to the land of the Indians/Hindus by people who were neither Indian nor Hindu. (At any rate, Indians seem to have their own word for India: Bharat.) The Moghul conquerors and rulers of India continued to use Hindustan and it became localized. However, the ending -Stan is not nearly as common in the South Asian context (compared to Iranian regions and Central Asia) because it is not native to India. Moreover, Pashtuns are not Persians but they are an Iranian people and speak an East Iranian language. Finally, consider all the countries that use -Stan and tell me how they could possibly all have derived from Sanskrit. Even Armenia (under Iranian influence) is called Hayastan by Armenians. Did Armenians also have Indian connections? I have respect for Sanskrit and its written legacy, similar to Latin, but we cannot put forth connections that do not exist simply to placate religious or nationalist ambitions. ~ Anti-Revisionist User — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.66.18 (talk) 09:35, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Dear IP, what's your point? "Etymology is the study of the history of words, their origins, and how their form and meaning have changed over time." [10] The word "Afghanistan" has been recorded since at least 1525. It means "land of the Afghans". The only other famous word of that time (1525) is "Hindustan", meaning "land of the Hindus". The rest of the places with "stan" in the end are recently or newly created words. Unless I'm wrong, Persians called their country "Pars" but never Parsistan or Iranistan. The rest of your conversation is based on personal theories and opinions, I make no comment. Why are we discussing this here?--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 23:34, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Dear Krzyhorse,

The point is very simple: no matter what your intent may be, you are in effect vandalizing the page with false information and South Asian bias. Your mistakes are so elementary, they call into question the reliability of your contributions in general.

And no, "Hindustan" was not the only famous word from that time. That's your subjective judgment based on a lack of historical and geographic knowledge. Are you really claiming that the -stan ending was coined in the 1500s?. As a matter of fact, even your claim that Hindustan is derived from Sanskrit is erroneous (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindustan). "Hindustan is derived from the Modern Persian word Hindū. In Old Persian, the region beyond the Indus River was referred to as Hinduš (the Iranic equivalent of Sanskrit Sindhu[3]), hence Modern Persian Hind, Hindū. This combined with the Persian suffix -stān (meaning literally "place", and having the same origin as the Sanskrit word sthān and the English word "stand") results in Hindustan, "land of Hind". By about the first century BC, the term "Hein-tu" was used by the Chinese to refer to North Indian people.[4][5] The term came into common use under the rule of the Mughals, who referred to their dominion, centered on Delhi, as 'Hindustan'. Hindustan is not a legal name of India."

And yes, -stan is widely used in Iran for various provinces: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Iran Golestan Khuzestan Kurdistan Lorestan Sistan and Baluchestan

Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_peoples

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Plateau "From the Caspian in the northwest to Baluchistan in the south-east, the Iranian Plateau extends for close to 2,000 km. It encompasses the greater part of Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan west of the Indus River"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Iranian_languages "The Eastern Iranian languages are a subgroup of the Iranian languages emerging in Middle Iranian times (from c. the 4th century BC). The Avestan language is often classified as early Eastern Iranian. The largest living Eastern Iranian language is Pashto"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/-stan "The suffix -stan (Persian: ـستان‎‎ -stān) is Persian for "place of"[1] or "country".[2]

Are you also going to edit those pages to suit your bias?

What is your background exactly and why you are doing this to the Afghanistan Wikipedia page? I am starting to agree with the other user, who has questioned your motives and pointed out POV.

~Anti-Revisionist User

I've seen Krzyhorse repeatidly on articles related to Pashtuns and Afghanistan spreading his own lucrative narrative or opinion. I've had clashes with him in the past on the Pashtun's people article and many other users have as well. I really don't know what his motive is but i don't think he is Afghan either. Either Mr. Krzyhorse you have to accept that you cannot always be right in everything and you will lose arguments which you have lost here. You've also not provided once piece of evidence to back up what you are saying like Afghans are closer to Indians or that "Stan" is of indian Sanskrit origin. Wikipedia runs on facts, not opinions!Akmal94 (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

As an Indian with a clearer view of Central and South Asian history, I have to point out that "Afghanistan" and "Hindustan" are terms historically applied by Persian-speaking Muslims towards these regions. They were never applied earlier, especially not in India, which used various Sanskrit names like "Aryavarta", "Bharat", "Gandhara", etc. "Stan", although existing in both Sanskrit and Persian, was mostly used by Persian and Iranian speakers in denoting their lands. Indo-Aryans typically used "varta" or "desha". The only area with the Sanskrit "sthan" is Rajasthan. Afghanistan is the Persian name for the Pashtun country. And yes Pashtuns are Iranian speakers and are culturally bound to ancient Bactria, Sogdia, Khwarezmia, etc. However, it is indisputable that there are long historical links between Pashtuns and South Asia that other Iranian peoples lack. As their poetry and geography attest ("Hindu Kush", etc) they historically lived on the trade routes leading to the subcontinent. And were often involved in military campaigns to conquer it. They often absorbed much Indic influence in their Iranian language Pashto, more so than Persian or Baluchi. Some Pashtun tribes even adopted Indic languages (examples: Niazi, Tareen) while retaining their tribal structures. So I would say that Afghanistan is a Central Asian country with South Asian overlap. Or maybe lying in both. Pashtuns belong depending on the tribe and history. Durranis are historically Persian and Middle Eastern in orientation. Ghilzais tend to be more rural and Central Asian, as are tribes in Kandahar, Quetta and the FATA of Pakistan. On the other hand, tribes in the NWFP/KP, Chitral, and Nangarhar region of Afghanistan tend to be more South Asian in orientation due to proximity and cultural influence. Just my two cents. 72.26.6.229 (talk) 15:20, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

^You are incorrect, there are no indic influences among Pashtuns, more like the oppisote with more iranian and afghan influence in India since these people ruled south asia for decades and introduced their culture there. Also, Durranis are not Persians, they are Pashtuns but less tribal and nomadic compared to other tribes but still Pashtun in origin despite a large bulk of them being persianized. Akmal94 (talk) 00:26, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

You misread my entire argument. I never said the Durrani were Persians! I said they were "Persian in orientation"! Meaning they historically adopted and followed an urban Persian culture. They did this until the 20th century, when Pashtun nationalism became more fashionable and Pashto was given greater prominence in the state. If you read the statement in context, you'd realize I was referring to Durranis as a Pashtun tribe that historically followed Persian culture. Look at the sentence before that on Durranis. I then go on to contrast them with tribes like Ghilzais or Yusfuzais who may be closer to Central Asia or South Asia. As for Indic influences, I beg to differ. There are no "Afghan" Pashtun influences on India. Afghans ruled it yes, but they purveyed the common Persian culture that dominated much of Central Asia and the subcontinent at that time. This Persian culture influenced India, not Afghan/Pashtun culture. But Pashtuns in particular have a lot of Indo-Aryan influence on their language compared to other Iranian peoples. This is a result of their long history of contacts with South Asia. Pashtun tribes near the Indus region have South Asian cultural patterns. And some of the tribes have even adopted Indian languages, like the Niazi and Tareen tribes. 192.207.162.108 (talk) 22:59, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

No you didn't, you basically said Durrani's were historically Persian which was indicating me that you thought they were Persians and not Afghan, maybe putting your sentences in proper context next time would be better. And Persian culture? are you kidding me? Your whole clothing is influenced by that of Pashtuns. The Shalvar Kameez which you call "Pathani suit" in India is of Afghan/Central Asian origin, it was introduced by Afghans who invaded India, hell even your wedding turbans and the headgear of that of elders and saradars is very similar to that of Pashtuns. The long cloth and small fan-shaped piece sticking up is of Pashtun origin and style. You can't honestly believe that a people who ruled you for more than centuries did not leave their cultural influence and imprint in your country, its just not possible. And sorry to dissapoint you, but there are NO indic influences in Afghanistan or among Afghan Pashtuns. Pashto doesn't have any urdu or hindi words, more like Hindi has borrowed heavily from both Pashto & Persian. Pashtuns of Pakistan are a different story, they have more indic influences but this is modern, not historical since they are part of Pakistan, an indic country so there will be more influences among them. I don't know why every Indian tries so hard to deny that Afghans ruled them or didn't influence them culturally yet are obsessed with them. Some of you also deny that there was an Aryan invasion in your country or that other empires didn't rule you. Pity. Akmal94 (talk) 04:47, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Once again you are engaging in ignorant assumptions. I never denied Afghan rule in India or Aryan invasion or whatever. And no, I never said Durranis are Persian. Anyone with a grade school education would realize I was talking about Durranis as a Pashtun tribe with Persian cultural influence. "Durranis are historically Persian and ME in orientation" Orientation you fucking retard, ORIENTATION. The sentence just before puts it in proper context. Learn how to fucking read before you engage ignorant judgments, which btw pervade your answer. Also, shalwar kameez is a major clothing in Punjab, not the rest of India though it's been adopted lately as a result of greater connectivity between ethnic cultures. Btw, just because Afghans ruled India doesn't discount reverse influence. If it affected the British who ruled from thousands of miles away, it surely affected Afghans who are just fucking next door. If anything, the influence just ties Afghanistan to South Asia just as much as it does to Central Asia. I have never denied that both Afghans and South Asians are greatly affected by the Khurasani Persian culture that thrived in South-Central Asia for centuries. If Indians are in denial about Afghan-Persian influence (which many are no doubt), Afghans are equally in denial about Indian contributions to Persian or Persian contributions to their own culture. You honestly believe Afghans were ruling India in teh name of any Afghan nation? Afghans were there as part of a general Central Asian push towards the subcontinent in the wake of the breakdown of the Abbasid and Samanid Empires. They often arrived as soldiers for the Turks and fought with them for influence. In fact, certain "Afghan" dynasties like the Khiljis are believed to be of mixed Turko-Afghan origin. And the culture that had the great impact on India from these conquerors wasn't really Afghan or Turkic culture but Persian Islamic culture as practiced in the Khorasan region. Often spread by Central Asian Sufi missionaries across the countryside. Many Pashtun nationalists have this delusion that somehow their culture was the great influential bloc that conqured India when in reality it was Khurasani Persian culture they conveyed to South Asia. Shalwar Kameez is also common among Tajiks and Turks, not just Pashtuns. Persians are also always dismissive of South Asians and treat Persian contributions from South Asia as signs of their national-imperial greatness, not as independent contributions to Persian civilization worthy of merit on their own terms. But I digress. Afghans were purveyors of Persian culture as every honest historian and academic of South or Central Asia will tell you. And they often didn't rule by themselves, they ruled alongside Turks and Tajiks. If anything, Central Asian Persian poets and sufis had an even greater influence on India than Afghans, who were mostly soldiers and intermarried after a few generations. And just as you can't honestly believe Afghans ruled India without leaving an impact, you can't honestly believe Afghans ruled or worked as soldiers in India for 500 years without at least being affected themselves. There's a whole literature on this. I suggest you read it. 173.15.19.73 (talk) 05:29, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

PS: I should add that I've often debated those hardcore Indian and Hindu nationalists that believe Afghanistan is simply another part of "Akhand Bharat" and that they are desis just like us. So don't you dare accuse me of Indian nationalism or whatever. That said, Indic influence is certainly there though it depends on tribe as I mentioned earlier. Speaking of which, that reminds of another mistake you make. I never said all Afghans or Pashtuns have Indic influences. I said only some and that too along the border regions. My whole point about the Durranis Persian influence and Ghilzais more Central Asian background was to show the variation among tribes. I believe the Pashtun tribes in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and Chitral are generally more Indic not just recently but because they were politically often part of South Asia based empires such as the Sikh Empire (Ranjit Singh conquered Peshawar) Mughal Empire and the various Afghan kingdoms you pointed out. 173.15.19.73 (talk) 05:38, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

First of all, why are you getting mad? You need to cut down on the insults as they can get you reported and banned. This is not the way want to get your opinion out by calling people "retards." Now addressing this very long post, You are confusing Persians and Persianized people. The Mughals were patronizers of Persian culture and heavily Persianized but they were not Persian in ethnicity, they were Mongols, they did indeed influence your country but so did Afghans, your denying the latter. Afghans had their own empires in India such as the Delhi Sultantetes, Durrani empire and Suri empire, none of them were persian or turkish influenced. I also don't know of any Pashtun nationalist that thinks they soley influenced india, also saying they "convyed Khurssani or Persian culture" to India is your own POV, not a fact. You also need to provide sources that they came as soldiers with the turks or that Afghans in India brought over Persian culture, to my knowledge, Pashtun rulers in India adopted and made Hindi the lingua franca of their empire, not Persian. And did you just say Tajiks? Tajiks have never had an empire in South Asia you hack. Also addressing your comment on Shalvar Kameez, the Tajiks wear it due to influence from Pashtuns and living side by side with them in the same country, of course they are going to dress similar but there are variations depending on region, many young Kabulis have abonanded such dresses and prefer to wear western clothing instead. Punjabis wear it due to right being beside Central Asia so they will be more influenced compared to other Indians, and to my knowledge, only Punjabis from Pakistan seem to have adopted this dress code while Indian and rural Punjabis tend to stick with the Doti, a long skirt. I don't know why you are so fixated on literature, there is more than that like linguistic and cultural influence which Afghans have contributed to. And you are DEAD wrong that the Afghans living on the border are indic influenced, do you even what lies beyond it? the tribal areas who are also Pashtun and have their own culture with no indian influences at all. They are very tribal which is why they are not even part of KPK. Only KPK does since its more closer to the Punjab.

I also never accused you of being an Indian nationalist, so stop being so paranoid. Any Indian that thinks Afghanistan belongs to them or vice versa is their opinion and not a fact. Personally, i don't think your so bright or know anything at all about Afghanistan or central asia in general, you just seem to be assuming things that you most likely read over on the internet and call it a "fact." Maybe picking up a few books on the topic will get you educated on the topic. Knowledge is power my friend. Akmal94 (talk) 05:21, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

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Persian and Kabali is also a language in Afghanistan Afghanistan is located in the Middle East Tj432 (talk) 20:32, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

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Supreme leader?

In the Recent history (2002–present) section, fourth paragraph, the ending reference citation states that it was the supreme leader of the Taliban, Mullah Mohammed Omar, who decided to back the peace talks. Please note that this took place in July of 2015. Two sources in the lead of Mullah Omar's article, [11] and [12], tell us that Mullah Omar died in 2013. This renders the source in this article inaccurate. Since Mullah Omar died in 2013, then who was it that backed the peace talks in 2015 in his name?
If the name of this person is known, then it should be given in this section and reliably sourced – if this person's name is not known, then that fact must be mentioned and explained, isn't that so?  OUR Wikipedia (not "mine")! Paine  13:38, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Nobody knows? It may have been Omar's successor, Mullah Akhtar Mansour; however, sources say Mansour was unwilling to enter into peace talks. More likely it was Omar's eldest son, Mullah Mohammad Yaqoob, who filled in for his father after he died in 2013. Can't add that to the article as it would be WP:OR without sources, so I have added those reference sources about Omar's death in 2013, and we can let others who are more knowledgable decide how much of that information should be used as content to improve this article.  Wikipedian Sign Language Paine  16:41, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

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The word "allāh" is a proper noun, hence it must be written as proper noun starting with capital A, "Allāh".

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 Done. I only found one uncapitalised occurrence. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:36, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

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Maybe it would be reasonable to reconcile the list of the largest cities within the chapter of "Demographics" with the chart list just below? The differencies look ridiculous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.199.250.17 (talk) 09:39, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

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i found lots of bias and wrong information about Afghanistan history and its population. i kindly request to let me correct those wrong information.

many thanks

Murteza


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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 09:14, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

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Could I get an NPoV check on the "In the 2005 parliamentary election, among the elected officials were former mujahideen, Islamic fundamentalists, warlords, communists, reformists, and several Taliban associates.[129]" line under the Governance section? The cited source page contains nothing more than a list of pictures and the following statement:

"They are Responsible for Afghanistan's Tragedy This is an in-complete list of some Afghan so-called politicians. Each one of them is engage in different degrees in either corruption, brutalities, spying to foreign powers, war crimes, treason, demagogy.... They are the trouble-makers of Afghanistan today. This list can hold many more names in it and we will try to complete it in future."

Obviously that sets off some pretty significant red flags. I mean, it doesn't even support the claims that it's being invoked as a citation for. I know little to nothing on the topic itself, but even I can see that this just isn't acceptable.

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Toggling. You are autoconfirmed and can boldly edit the page yourself. See WP:BRD? Not sure what else to say — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 18:27, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Re: adding to cyrrlic

It is used in Tajik , Uzbek , and other languages.

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Please add this to the name alongside dari/pashto , it is to show that minorities are also recognized — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afgmirmir (talk • contribs) 19:59, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

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I request that the word "Afghanistan" is to be added in Cyrillic , as in the north Cyrillic is commonly used so it would be helpful.

thank you

Afgmirmir (talk) 20:23, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: Cyrillic is a script used by many languages. In Afghanistan, it appears to be used by the Kazakh language, and I have no clue as to how the Cyrillic script for "Afghanistan" appears in that language. I don't see any reason why it cannot be added to this article; however, you will need to provide the script for us. If a Kazakh alphabet is used, I really wouldn't know where to begin. Perhaps you would?  Rules of enpagement Paine  01:18, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

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It is used for Tajik , Uzbeki , and many street signs and such especially in the north use it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afgmirmir (talk • contribs) 19:56, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

 Done.  Rules of enpagement Paine  09:29, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Undone: This request has been undone. Reverted by \\'arrior 786  Rules of enpagement Paine  20:35, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

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هیچ افغانی حق ندارد اسم ایران رو بر زبون بیارد، هیچ افغونی پدرسوخته حق ندارد با یک شخص ایرونی‌ حرف بزند، هر افغانی پدرسوخته که بخواد به یک شخص ایرانی‌ نگاه کند باید در ملا عام به دار آویخته شود، هر افغانی پدرسگ و مادر به خطا که بخواد با یک زن یا مرد ایرانی‌ ازدواج بکند باید در ملا عام در زده شود. هیچ افغانی پدرسگ حق ندارد با یک شخص ایرانی‌ دوست پسر یا دوست دختر شود، ایرانیها همزبان افاغنه نیستند، افغانی میگن پیچکاری و هزارها واژه مزخرف دیگه استفاده میکنند که معنی‌ ندارد، لهجه و زبان افغانی هر ایرانی‌ رو به خنده می‌اندازد، ایرانیها خوشتیپ و خوشگل و متمدن هستند اما افاغنه بی‌ریخت و بدقواره و بی‌ تمدن هستند. افغانستان کشور تریاک و بچه بازی است. ایران به همه ایرانیان تعلق دارد و اگر افغانی غصّه بخورد که چرا بخشی از ایران نیست بره گریه کنه بهتره گریه کنه که چرا بخشی از ایران نیست، افغانستان هیچوقت بخشی از ایران نبوده امپراطوری ایران تمام غرب آسیا و آسیا میانه رو در بر میداشت است. افغانی برو خواهرتو پیچکاری کن، افغانی برو برای کشورت برنامه ریزی کن که بهتر شه، افغونی!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! من به نمایندگی از ملت ایران اعلام می‌کنم که ما ایرانیها از افاغنه نفرت شدید داریم، افغانی به ایرانی‌ نزدیک مشو، افغانی با ایرانی‌ حرف نزن، من این متن رو به نمایندگی‌ از همه ایرانیهای هموطنم نوشتم. افغانی افیونی آفی به ایران فکر نکن، افغانی واژه ایران و ایرانی‌ رو از سرت به در کن. ههههههههههههههههههههه افغانی! هرات بر وزن دهات است برای همین یک دهات است، توهین نباشه به دهات، افغانیها از نژاد و نسل مغول‌ها هستند، افغانی‌ها به اصفهان و تهران حمله کردند و خرابی‌ به بار آوردند. لعنت به افغانی. هر فحشی که به من نگارنده این سطور داده شود، فحش‌ها به فحش دهنده برگردد. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.241.81.150 (talk) 06:07, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Un

I want to know Afghanistan in un please tell Dhruvtatti (talk) 09:28, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Herat and Mazar-i-Sharif

Both cities are the third largest according to their articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.175.27.212 (talk) 17:11, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Afghanistan is mostly a nomadic... society?

At Afghanistan#CultureCulture it states that Afghanistan "is mostly a nomadic... society." That is ridiculous!!! and should be corrected because only about 5% are nomads (Kochi people). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotchickslovemeuglyoneshateme (talk • contribs) 14:06, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Uzbek

please change ((Uzbek))s to ((Uzbeks))

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. 🔯 Sir Joseph 🍸(talk) 18:41, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Proper Flag

User Warrior_786 recently replaced the link in the infobox for the flag from Flag of Afghanistan to Flag of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. If you look at the history for the former file you can see that this user engaged in an 'edit war' of sorts trying to change the flag design from the one where the logo is fully contained in the center red stripe to the one where it covers a portion of all three stripes. On the official Ministry of Foreign Affairs website for Afghanistan it is shown with the version covering all three stripes, but the background image of the website (see the top panel) shows it with it fully contained in the red stripe.

I'm posting this in an attempt to get consensus on this issue as I cannot find specific sources citing the change, and other pages on this wiki, notably Flag of Afghanistan show it with the red bar only version. Heighliner10191 (talk) 10:05, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

I noticed that edit, and I spent some time poking around, looking for something definitive. I didn't find it. Pages at the web sites for three Afghan embassies—Sweden, UK, and US—show the flag with the logo fully within the center field. Two other pages—for the Afghan embassy in the UAE and the Afghan Chief Executive show the other version. Clearly, both versions of the flag have been in use recently. It's unclear which one, if either, is "official". RivertorchFIREWATER 15:50, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I would then propose, for consistency with other pages on the Wiki, that we revert the change back to the previous flag as that is the flag used on the majority of pages on this and other Wikimedia projects. In the past there has clearly been a preference for that dread was here
directly. I'll do this in about a day unless there are any other objections or someone with more history on this topic would like to do it immediately. Heighliner10191 (talk) 08:45, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
In the absence of a compelling argument to the contrary, I'd support that. Perhaps you'd like to ping the user who made the change? RivertorchFIREWATER 09:06, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
@\\'arrior 786: care to defend your change to the flag design? If you have a reason it would be good to hear. Heighliner10191 (talk) 16:43, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Having given the changing user a full day to reply to his ping I went ahead and made the change back to the old flag Heighliner10191 (talk) 07:07, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Demography

As of 1 January 2017, the population of Afghanistan was estimated to be 34 043 082 people. Please amend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Regenteditor (talk • contribs) 17:41, 15 January 2017 (UTC)


I Need clarification on a Afghani picture

Please help: See this picture (file):

Mir Alam of Kohistan region in Afghanistan

What is this warrior’s name? Mir Alam or Meer Alum?

Which sub-division of Kohistan (disambiguation page), does this picture apply to?

"Ko-i-staun foot soldiery in summer costume. This lithograph is taken from plate 12 of 'Afghaunistan' by Lieutenant James Rattray. This Kohistani is Mir Alam, formerly one of a band of noted robbers on the road to Turkestan, north-west of Begram. Rattray wrote: "Coistaun has always been remarkable for the war-like character of its inhabitants, who average some forty thousand families famous for the efficiency and excellence of their Pyadas (foot-soldiery)…"

Any other thoughts or info would be useful... Thanks BeckenhamBear (talk) 18:57, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

"Gender"

This is trash. Someone, please take out the trash.184.145.42.19 (talk) 03:23, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Afghanistan map to be changed

Afghanistan recently said it doesn't recognize Durand line, meaning that line is to be shown in green. Refs - https://www.dawn.com/news/1318594/afghanistan-will-never-recognise-the-durand-line-hamid-karzai http://nation.com.pk/national/06-Mar-2017/kabul-will-never-recognise-durand-line http://pakobserver.net/kabul-will-never-recognise-durand-line-karzai/ http://ariananews.af/karzai-afghanistan-will-never-recognize-formality-of-durand-line/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.51.19.170 (talk) 18:50, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Wrong linkage, please correct: Alexander's to Alexander the Great

Could someone correct the link for "Alexander's" in the pre-Islamic history section -- it should point to Alexander the Great, and right now it points to a department store.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.111.254.17 (talk) 21:29, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

 Fixed --Enric Naval (talk) 10:36, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Religion in the infobox should say "Islam," not "Sunni Islam"--Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2017

The religion section of the infobox should not say "Sunni Islam," but instead it should just say "Islam." Over 99% of the country is Muslim and identify as such. Within that 99%, roughly 70-75% is Sunni, and 25-30% is Shi'a, so it is incorrect to state the country as a whole's religion is specifically the Sunni branch of Islam. Please fix this issue asap. 73.85.206.97 (talk) 13:32, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

 Done - although you have not provided sources for your "70-75% is Sunni, and 25-30% is Shi'a" the sources at Religion in Afghanistan suggest 90% / 10% - however, that shows they are 99% Muslims, but are not all Sunnis. - Arjayay (talk) 18:07, 7 June 2017 (UTC)


911 -We were interested in Afghanistan long before 911. An oil pipeline was planned/envisioned to get oil from the newly separated oil fields to the north. Afghanistan is setting on top of all the minerals we need/want. The Taliban were strictly a non-global power. But to get a friendlier government you have to do what you have to do. Of course they double crossed us and sold the goodies to China, etc. A good question is,why do we still remain there - the dream of all that money must be driving someone batty. 2601:181:8301:4510:A5BC:B749:CB72:A29 (talk) 14:14, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 5 August 2017

hi there

The US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 is described in the article summary as 'Liberation'.

The US invasion was illegal under international law since: 1) An attack on Afghanistan, beginning on 20. October, had not been approved by a resolution of the UN Security Council 2) United States forces were not expelling Afghan forces from US territory 3) United States forces were not repelling Afghan forces from US territory

Furthermore, this was a 'war of aggression' as defined at Nuremberg, in that the invasion was immensely disproportionate to the alleged cause (refusal of the government to extradite one man, Osama Binladen).

I intend to correct the summary and change 'Liberation' to 'US Invasion'. I also intend to replace certain erroneous data with internationally accepted and or verified data.

best regards

Paraic Davis Pouca (talk) 20:05, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 20:11, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2017

Nasir Jafari (talk) 02:57, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. nihlus kryik (talk) 03:15, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Afghanistan part of "Greater India"

I look at this statement i.e. "The land was collectively recognized by the Arabs as al-Hind due to its cultural connection with Greater India. ", and I am not able to find any source of this citation. Afghanistan was settled by Eastern Iranian tribes such as Bactrians and was considered part of Khorasan under Sassanids according to Iranologist such as Richard Nelson Fyre. This wikipedia page is also not editable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.220.98.229 (talk) 23:04, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Probably added in by a nationalist Indian, i'll try my best to find the source otherwise it goes. Akmal94 (talk) 07:13, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

http://tigerkhan007.blogspot.com/2017/08/pakistan-census-2017-pashtun-population.html for pashtun population post census 39.40.28.207 (talk) 10:29, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2018

14.200.52.27 (talk) 08:23, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

i need permission to change this source because there is false information of afghanistan being in south asia when it is in central asia.

 Not done: Afghanistan is in South Asia not in Central Asia. regards, DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 08:54, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Explanation rewritings in §2.6 and four sentences of §2.7

The separation line between §§2.6 and 2.7 was unclear: 2.6 ended with (vague) facts of late 1994, 2.7 started with events 1994–95 when there was still no "Emirate". I've moved all facts until 27 September 1996 (Taliban occupy Kabul) up to §2.6.

Changes in the former 25 sentences of §2.6:
1: ("..solve the ongoing civil war…"): meaningless, wars don't 'solve'. (Thus removed.)
2+3: Rewritten, except 'trans-national Islamic revolution' which is only the perception of mr. Abbas Nasir and (therefore) not relevant enough. A list of reference sources is found in Afghan Civil War (1989–92).
6: The ousting cannot be directly attributed to losing foreign aid nor to "collapse"; sentence rewritten.
7: We have no source saying an 'Islamic State of Afghanistan' was "established", sources (see main articles) say the Peshawar Accord proclaimed an 'interim government' (which never attained authority over Afghanistan).
8: Vague, removed.
9: "instability developed" is vague and meaningless.
11: Expanded.
12 ("..did not have time…"): Nonsense, time doesn't stop, not even during war.
13,14,15: More concisely and precisely rewritten.
16,17: More precise.
18: Unsourced, not very relevant.
19: More precise, other ref source added.
20: More precise.
21 ("held on…"): Unclear and suggestive: did Massoud control Kabul? We have no information saying that.
22: Undefined ('Rabbani's government'). Vague: what exactly did he do, and when?
23: Unclear: what "process"? when "invited"?
24,25: Too vague: when is "meanwhile", what defines "northern Afghanistan", when and how did Dostum get governance there? "Safe haven" contradicts "mostly safe", is vague and propaganda.
Changes in the formerly first four sentences of §2.7:
1: Too vague.
3,4: Also Hekmatyar retreated from Kabul, is written in a newly added ref source. --Corriebertus (talk) 13:00, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 March 2018

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External links modified (January 2018)

The Jews and covered Jews are in Afghanistan and by crrokerly want our mostly Aryan nation made a Semite (Jewish) nation. But no success in Afghanistan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.107.240.106 (talk) 00:17, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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Religion bar chart

The cited for the religion bar chart gives the following percentages:

  • Hanafi Sunni 70%
  • Imami Shia 25%
  • Ismaili Shia 4.5%
  • Others 0.5%

The bar chart uses very different percentages.

Religion in Afghanistan[2]
Sunni Islam
 
 84.7–89.7%
Imamiyyah
 
 7–15%
Isma'ilism
 
 4.5%
Other religion
 
 0.5%
  1. ^ page 32 Women's Human Rights: The International and Comparative Law Casebook, By Susan Deller Ross -- https://books.google.com/books?id=0dRAAQAAQBAJ&lpg=PA32&ots=t1uScfiW90&dq=no%20other%20regime%20in%20the%20world%20has%20methodically%20and%20violently%20forced%20half%20of%20its%20population%20into%20virtual%20house%20arrest&pg=PA32#v=onepage&q=no%20other%20regime%20in%20the%20world%20has%20methodically%20and%20violently%20forced%20half%20of%20its%20population%20into%20virtual%20house%20arrest&f=false
  2. ^ http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/images/maps/Afghanistan_Religion_lg.png

I will change the bar chart to the numbers shown in the cited source.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:16, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2018

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Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2018

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Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2018

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Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2018

Change the current climate classification map (Afghanistan map of Köppen climate classification.svg) to one which is more accurate (Koppen-Geiger_Map_AFG_present.svg). This journal article should be cited: https://www.nature.com/articles/sdata2018214

Hylken (talk) 15:25, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

​ Done. Since you now have more than 10 edits and 4 days of experience on your account, please note that you can edit semi-protected articles (like Afghanistan) on your own without making an edit request in the future. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! — Newslinger talk 09:24, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Location of Afghanistan in Asia

Historical maps show Afghanistan variously located in the Middle East, Central Asia, and most recently in South Asia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.227.174.10 (talk) 23:49, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

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Languages

The article has the following bar chart, which cites the CIA Fact Book as a source:

"South Asia ::AFGHANISTAN". CIA The World Factbook.
Languages of Afghanistan
Dari (Afghanistan Persian)
 
 50%
Pashto
 
 35%
Uzbek and Turkmen
 
 11%
30 others including Balochi and Pashai
 
 4%

I checked the source and it said:

Afghan Persian or Dari (official) 80% (Dari functions as the lingua franca), Pashto (official) 47%, Uzbek 11%, English 5%, Turkmen 2%, Urdu 2%, Pashayi 1%, Nuristani 1%, Arabic 1%, Balochi, Shughni, Pamiri, Hindi, Russian, German, French <.5% each, don't know/refused <1%
note 1: data represent most widely spoken languages; shares sum to more than 100% because there is much bilingualism in the country and because respondents were allowed to select more than one language
note 2: the Turkic languages Uzbek and Turkmen, as well as Balochi, Pashayi, Nuristani, and Pamiri are the third official languages in areas where the majority speaks them (2017 est.)

As you can see the data in the chart are almost unrelated to the cited source.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:03, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Have now corrected the bar chart so it looks like this.
Languages of Afghanistan[1][Note 1]
Dari (Afghanistan Persian)
 
 80%
Pashto
 
 47%
Uzbek
 
 11%
English
 
 5%
Turkmen
 
 2%
Urdu
 
 2%
Pashayi
 
 1%
Nuristani
 
 1%
Arabic
 
 1%
  1. ^ Percentages add up to more than 100% because because respondents in the survey were allowed to select more than one language.
  1. ^ "South Asia ::AFGHANISTAN". CIA The World Factbook. 2017. Retrieved 22 August 2018.

-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:14, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

No the second chart is completely wrong because more then 62% people of Afghanistan speak Pashto You should take the information from I main resource I hope you correct the mistake MUMTAZ KHAN TAAND (talk) 17:42, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

I corrected this data at Languages of Afghanistan weeks ago, The above chart is correct and supported by reliable sources.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 21:39, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2019

I would like to add more information on Afghanistan (English Page) under section 2.8 Recent History (2002 to Present). 1) I wanna make the year specific by stating March 2019 instead of presence so that users know when it was last edited 2) the content under this specific section only covers issues about Afghanistan until 2014. Issues post 2014 to 2019 (entire 5 years is missing) I would like to add some contents on development between 2014 to March 2019 with proper citation and reference. As such, I would appreciate if I am given access to bring the necessary changes and add some content.

Please see below a copy of the text SaadatAryan (talk) 15:00, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you AS


In September 2014 Ashraf Ghani became President after the 2014 presidential election where for the first time in Afghanistan's history power was democratically transferred.[108][109][110][111][112] On 28 December 2014, NATO formally ended ISAF combat operations in Afghanistan and officially transferred full security responsibility to the Afghan government and the NATO-led Operation Resolute Support was formed the same day as a successor to ISAF.[113][114] However, thousands of NATO troops have remained in the country to train and advise Afghan government forces[115] and continue their fight against the Taliban, which remains by far the largest single group fighting against the Afghan government and foreign troops.[116] Hundreds of thousands of insurgents, Afghan civilians and government forces have been made casualty by the war.[117] SaadatAryan (talk) 15:00, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. MrClog (talk) 19:39, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Remove 'Afghanistani' from Demonym

Hi,

Please could you remove 'Afghanistani' from the Demonym section as it is incorrect. I would be happy to edit this myself if I were given the user permission.

Best wishes

Hi, Me wiki account, I would, but the term 'Afghanistani' is supported by this source https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Afghanistani. This term however is certainly less common than 'Afghan'. JACKINTHEBOX • TALK 13:16, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, about Afghanistan population

Hi, on the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan , There are three section about the population are wrong. i can't edit due to semi protected. Can you edit it? 

           number one:The population section on the right bar section of the page where it shows 31,575,018. It suppose be 37,135,635 instead of 31,575,018. 
           number two:The section sentence where it shows "Afghanistan is a unitary presidential Islamic republic with a population of 31 million". it suppose to be 37 million population at least.
           number three:Under the demographics section, where it shows"The population of Afghanistan was estimated at 31.6 million in 2018. Of this, 16.1 million are males and 15.5 million females. ". The population of Afghanistan should be 37,135,635.

Here is my reference https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/afghanistan-population/

Can you change the three section that I mentioned? 37,135,635 or 37 million is the most updated information of Afghanistan population currently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.178.118.50 (talk) 18:17, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2019

Afghanistan is apart of Central Asia not South Asia. Majority of Its ethnic groups include, Uzebks, Tajiks(Persians), Hazaras, Turkmens, Pashtuns. They do not fit into the Desi category, which is mainly South Asians, they do not Speak any branches of the Hindu Language, Urdu, Punjabi etc. They have different cultures, which if you look into, are almost similar to many central asian countries like Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. They are also located in the heart of Asia, right next to Iran which is in the middle east, Tajikistan in Central Asia, and Pakistan in South Asia. They consider themselves Central Asians or in North America, they would be placed under West Asia. Change South Asia to Central Asia. Alihabib23 (talk) 18:16, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

@Alihabib23: Thank you for your concern. All content on Wikipedia must be supported by reliable sources. Can you provide some sources to back up your statements? --Cerebellum (talk) 19:01, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes. These are some sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asia https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/central-asia-and-afghanistan-helping-your-neighbor/

https://saylordotorg.github.io/text_world-regional-geography-people-places-and-globalization/s11-07-central-asia-and-afghanistan.html "The five countries of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan were part of the former Soviet Union until its breakup in 1991. Today, with Afghanistan, they are independent countries that make up the region called Central Asia."

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/ethnic-groups-of-afghanistan.html

Pashtun, Tajik(2nd largest ethnic group), Uzbek(3rd largest), Hazara, Turkmen etc...( all have similarities with the central asian countries (Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, etc)

Central Asia countries Kazakhstan Kazakhstan Uzbekistan Uzbekistan Afghanistan Afghanistan Tajikistan Tajikistan Turkmenistan Turkmenistan Kyrgyzstan Kyrgyzstan

Countries in South Asia View 2+ more India India Pakistan Pakistan Sri Lanka Sri Lanka Nepal Nepal Bhutan Bhutan Bangladesh Bangladesh Maldives Maldives

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_Canadians "In the Canadian Census, Canadians with descent from Afghanistan are classified as being West Central Asian.[1]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asia

 Not done Unfortunately, none of these are valid sources. Wikipedia is not considered reliable. Figuring out similarities on your own (the world atlas source) is original research. User generated content (github) is not acceptable either. Please read WP:RS carefully and provide reliable sources. --regentspark (comment) 13:38, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Is the article too long?

It would seem the article is too long. Readable prose is above 50 kb, which is usually too much, per WP:SPLIT.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 19:58, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

It's 58,801 prose. per wp:SIZERULE I would say maybe. Since every section in the article has already been split off to a daughter article, I'm not sure there is an easy fix. ---- Work permit (talk) 22:11, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

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GA Review

GA FAILED
Procedural close - article not yet at criteria, needs quite a bit of work and nominator has asked for closure. Overall, article isn't too bad, but could do with a copyedit, and reference work.

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 18:39, 22 September 2019 (UTC)


Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

  • It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria - checkY Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:33, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • It contains copyright infringements - checkY Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:33, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). - checkY Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:33, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -checkY Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:33, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Links

Prose

Lede

  • Generally lede's do not need citations, as the information should be in the prose somewhere. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Much of its 652,000 square kilometers (252,000 sq mi) is covered by the Hindu Kush mountain range at the western end of the Himalayas - "much of" isn't very encylopedic Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • and since 2001 by the United States with NATO-allied countries. - "And since 2001" isn't helpful. The rest of the list isn't dated. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • It has been called "unconquerable"[according to whom?]
  • The lede seems quite overlinked. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Afghanistan is a unitary presidential Islamic republic with a population of 31 million - the population should be mentioned higher in the lede. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • The country continues to face severe problems - this isn't encylopedic. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Link the $. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Article comments

  • There's a lot of duplinks Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Is it usual for Etymology to be above History? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Wording isn't fantastic. A few times wikilinks are used to explain things, rather than actually explaining things Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • The Etymology section isn't great wording. Sounds like someone trying to explain it, rather than elequently worded. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Article in general is written as if the user is aware of the subject. GA articles should be written to give an overview of each section. Something like the History section starts Excavations of prehistoric sites suggest that humans were living in what is now Afghanistan at least 50,000 years ago. Could we use something like Humans first began living in Afghanistan at least 50,000 years ago, suggested by excavations of prehistoric sites. This sort of wording explains to a general reader about the length of time the nation has been around straight away. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • The country sits at a unique nexus point where numerous civilizations have interacted and often fought. - puff. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Captions aren't great. The first one in particular means nothing. This isn't an image gallery. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • First para of Pre-Islamic period isn't well cited. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • watch out for WP:SEAOFBLUE like at Indo-European-speaking Indo-Iranians. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Third para of Islamization and Mongol invasion isn't well cited Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • In general, there's quite a lot of uncited sentences. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Lots of WP:REFBOMB issues - [107][108][109][110][111][112] for example. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Battles of Mazar-i-Sharif (1997–98) links like this should be piped. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • The country's natural resources include: coal, copper, iron ore, lithium, uranium, rare earth elements, chromite, gold, zinc, talc, barite, sulfur, lead, marble, precious and semi-precious stones, natural gas, and petroleum, among other things - "other things" isn't enclopedic Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Is the table for the largest cities needed? Surely it could be added in prose instead? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Ethnic groups probably should take information from other sections to be expanded.
  • Administrative divisions - is the full list of areas needed? Even if so, can we use a {{div col}} instead? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Some of the captions are too long (lots are too short) - Black Hawks of the Afghan Air Force at Kandahar Airfield. As a major non-NATO ally, the Afghan Armed Forces receive most of their equipment and training from the United States. is too long, the information could be explained in prose. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • The Afghan Ministry of Counter Narcotics is responsible for the monitoring and eradication of the illegal drug business.[citation needed] Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Only three sentences for Human rights? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • We need to explain that $ is the USD. There are lots of dollars. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Including domestic airports, there are 43 - fragment. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Notes & References

  • Could we split references and notes a bit better? At the moment we have refs explaining things (such as ref 10) that are written as if they are cited. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:42, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • checklinks throws in lots of errors. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:42, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Some refs don't really explain a lot. Ref 12 seems to say that Afgranistan is in Asia, but has four references in them. Why? One is plenty. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:42, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Can we change "references" -> "Bibliography", "notes" -> "references", and add "notes" for the above as per the MOS. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:44, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Comments

  • Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definately not manditory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)
  • So, from a quick skim, there's quite a lot above. The main ones are:
  • Ref fixes - There seems to be some confusion here as to what a reference and what a note is. This needs to be rearranged.
  • Image captions and tables - There's potentially too many images regardless... But there does need to be a fix to a lot of the captions, which aren't great
  • Citing in general. There's lots of statements that have no citations. At least if they are at the end of the paragraphs it could mean it is citing the whole paragraph.

I'll put this on hold. I'll give it a couple days, and see if enough has changed for a full review. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:33, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: Thanks a lot for your comments, you noticed a lot that I've missed. I'll see what I can do to fix these issues. --Cerebellum (talk) 21:57, 23 September 2019 (UTC)--Cerebellum (talk) 21:57, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
@Lee Vilenski: On second thought, this will take me more than a week. I recommend failing the article, and I'll resubmit when ready. (I'll review one of your articles, do you care which one?) --Cerebellum (talk) 22:40, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
I thought I'd leave it open for you to reply. I agree this one isn't quite at the right level (specifically the way some of it is uncited is a big issue, and fixing how the references look could take some time.), so I could have failed it, but I wanted to leave it open in case you thought you were up to the task. I'll close this one as failed.
I think I have three (maybe?) articles nominated at this time - I must get around to promoting more content, it hasn't been easy recently - although once it's copy-edited, I'm nominating Snooker, and the 1985 World Snooker Championship. Take your pick from any unreviewed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 06:58, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2019

The ethnic group ratios of Afghanistan are incorrect since there hasn't been an official census done in 3-4 decades. all numbers used are based on small sample collections which are inaccurate. please label the citation as unreliable and prone to bias. thanks 173.13.199.209 (talk) 18:55, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done That's a good point, I added the sentence "The percentages given are estimates only, as accurate and current statistical data on ethnicity are not available." --Cerebellum (talk) 08:58, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

vandalism and correction.

the term (graveyard of empires) should be re written. That is very important, and sikh empire never peneterated afghanistans current borders.Plus location have been vandalized from central south to south asia. please fix it someone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:A0C1:4101:5938:F980 (talk) 14:43, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

In the comment above yours, Khestwol explains why they removed Central Asia, and the argument makes sense to me. To change it back, we need sources saying Afghanistan is in Central Asia. As for the Sikhs, you're right but didn't they capture Peshawar? Which at the time was part of the Durrani Empire and considered part of Afghanistan. I'm not sure if the "graveyard of empires" nickname should be in there. Do any other editors have an opinion? --Cerebellum (talk) 11:10, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Here are more sources and see the article up:

Here are more sources of Afghanistan in Central Asia: ec.europa.eu/afghanistan_en EU Cleary states that Afghanistan is both AP News CentralAsia Independent UK CentralAsia Central Asia-Caucasus Institute Geographica World Atlas & Encyclopedia. Random House Australia: Milsons Point NSW Australia. Learn about the Central Asian country of Afghanistan https://iis.ac.uk/research/central-asian-studies https://harriman.columbia.edu/programs/central-asian-studies Times of Central Asia Journal of the Central Asian Society Changed in Asian Society Journal.

This was a quick list but it can be carried on. Being Central Asia or South Asia is just general info. There is no extensive research about this, it is just general information of a country. Again it depends on who you ask or which website you visit, Which institution you ask etc. There is nothing evil/bad/wrong in calling this country both as people did. Casperti (talk) 20:55, 16 October 2019 (UTC) 

I agree but the opening section information is about the  empires that have invaded Afghanistan, keeping the tone of article in  mind sikh empire doesnt fit in (which invaded peshawer and parts of frontier).
And the nickname is a very "popular" phrase about history of Afghanistan with regarding the wars and invasions (which was already in the article before being deleted). I hope further changes are made.

LBGTQIAPK Relations in Afghanistan

Thought it would be important to include a section on this as Afghanistan is known as a sexually liberated country with Thursday being a dedicated day of the week for the alphabet of sexuality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.200.82.22 (talk) 03:16, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Do you have any sources for that information? I get a different idea from reading LGBT rights in Afghanistan. --Cerebellum (talk) 14:54, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 November 2019

In the top section: change "and in the far northeast, China." to "and China in the far northeast."

I think that sounds more natural. Psk42 (talk) 17:39, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

 Partly done. Final portion made parallel to the rest. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 02:23, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Invalid

معلومات و ارقام ذکر شده نادرست بوده و توسط اشخاص عادی و غیر مسول درج شده است. بناً این معلومات قابل اعتبار نمی باشد. The above information and figures are inaccurate and are listed by ordinary and irresponsible persons. So this information is not valid. Feroz talashi (talk) 10:36, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Duly noted. --Cerebellum (talk) 00:29, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Minor Correction

The last reference under heading 2.1 is missing the beginning of a `Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).[1][2]Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page)." in the lead 83.9.228.58 (talk) 18:51, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-worldgeography/chapter/8-7-central-asia-and-afghanistan/
  2. ^ https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/is-afghanistan-in-the-middle-east.html
 Not done. Trivial. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 02:42, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2020

I put a picture (its not meant to be posted officially its just as a reference to explain what I wanted to change) on the right side of this post of what it looks like when I enter when I enter Afghanistan in google search bar, the wiki description appears on the side says that Afghanistan is south Asian when its a land lock country between central and south. Ethnically and cultural tied to Central Asia and geography wise its between south and Central Asia but it says South Asia which miss represents our heritage and people.

when Afghanistan is googled its listed as south asian instead of "between south and Central Asia" or just "Central Asia" since we are history known has the heart of Asia, we are culturally, ethnically, and historically tied to Central Asia like event from genghis khan conquest.

"officially the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, is a landlocked country in South and Central Asia." to "officially the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, is a landlocked country in Central Asia." [1][2][3][4](talk) 06:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Modernization and Regional Cooperation in Central Asia: A New Spring: page 14 Afghanistan is considering itself as a Central Asian country http://silkroadstudies.org/resources/1811CA-Regional.pdf [5]

as Afghan President Ashraf Ghani has noted, Afghanistan is itself a Central Asian country as Afghan President Ashraf Ghani has noted, Afghanistan is itself a Central Asian country https://thehill.com/opinion/international/483511-a-new-strategy-for-central-asia [6]

British/European definitions are mostly showing Central Asia. Here is country definitions per Oxford and Cambridge country word definitions too: Lexico powered by Oxford University: Afghanistan https://www.lexico.com/definition/afghanistan [7]

The official world atlas has changed it to central Asia to be more percise. World religion geography: people places and globalization has it as central Asia. Britannica also has it as central south of Asia. Another note When googling Afghanistan, the wiki Side note says Afghanistan Country in South Asia instead of central Asia which is more accurate and precise according to the world atlas and updated geography textbook. We don't share ethnic groups of south Asia nor are we culturally or ethnically similar central Asia. So how can you say "I think" to prove ur argument when u used an opinion to start you sentence when the president said otherwise.

South and Central Asia are more widely-used terms. I’ve never heard “Central-South Asia” before. You argue that it is a Central Asian country, but that is already reflected clearly by the current description, so I don’t see what substantive change this would constitute. — Tartan357  (Talk) 03:27, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
hey @Tartan357
thats not what I mean look at the picture, it says south asian when we are between central and south Asian and culturally, historically, and ethnically tied to Central Asia. Geography is a man made border yet it didnt take account of correctly placing it where we are ethnically tied to — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubinastan (talk • contribs) 02:00, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

You seem to be proposing a change to what a Google search is returning; we have no control over that. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 18:30, 30 May 2020 (UTC) 

but it says its  the information is from a wiki page so doesn't it need to be fixed within wiki?
The “Country in South Asia” line isn’t from Wikipedia; only the paragraph underneath is. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 07:32, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.britannica.com/place/Afghanistan
  2. ^ https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-worldgeography/chapter/8-7-central-asia-and-afghanistan/
  3. ^ https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/is-afghanistan-in-the-middle-east.html
  4. ^ https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/central-asia-s-major-cultural-and-economic-hubs.html
  5. ^ http://silkroadstudies.org/resources/1811CA-Regional.pdf
  6. ^ https://thehill.com/opinion/international/483511-a-new-strategy-for-central-asia
  7. ^ https://www.lexico.com/definition/afghanistan

The Ror

The Ror do not need to be included in the history section. They are a minor tribe and are not significant to the overall history of Afghanistan. We cannot list every tribe and clan that migrated in or out of Afghanistan as the section would get too long. Favoring the Ror over the other tribes that migrated in or out of Afghanistan violates WP:DUE. @Xpardeep:@Xerxes931:, you two are also involved. --Danre98(talk^contribs) 17:00, 4 September 2020 (UTC) Edit: Changed WP:NPOV to the more specific WP:DUE --Danre98(talk^contribs) 17:05, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

ok i got, Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xpardeep (talk • contribs) 17:13, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Removing the Lodi Dynasty being replaced

User:Student7 Actually it is worth mentioning that he replaced the Lodi Dynasty in India by the Mughal one as the Lodis were an Afghan dynasty ruling in India, maybe edit it to "replaced the Afghan Lodi Dynasty" so its clear. --Xerxes931 (talk) 12:43, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Sounds good! Student7 (talk) 22:29, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

safavids and khwarizmi

Safavids and Khwarizmi didn't rose from Afghanistan as mentioned in history section. It should be deleted to not undermine wikipedias credibility. I think safavids should be only mentioned in early modern section of history and that is enough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:4131:9F16:4E74:D4C0 (talk) 20:04, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Agree, Safavids urgently need to be removed, they didn't rose from what is now Afghanistan but NW Iran instead. For the Khwarezmian Dynasty I have came across a few sources some time ago stating the Anushtegins to have established their empire in what is today northwest Afghanistan, so that can stay, but the Safavid part is just complete nonsense. User:Student7 Please fix that.--Xerxes931 (talk) 12:48, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Sorry. I’m lost! I was casually “fixing” an article I happened to be reading for the first time. Student7 (talk) 22:36, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2020 (2)

"officially the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, is a landlocked country in South and Central Asia." to "officially the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, is a landlocked country in Central-South Asia." [1][2][3][4](talk) 06:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.britannica.com/place/Afghanistan
  2. ^ https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-worldgeography/chapter/8-7-central-asia-and-afghanistan/
  3. ^ https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/is-afghanistan-in-the-middle-east.html
  4. ^ https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/central-asia-s-major-cultural-and-economic-hubs.html

The official world atlas has changed it to central south of Asia to be more percise. World religion geography: people places and globalization has it as central Asia. Britannica also has it as central south of Asia. Another note When googling Afghanistan, the wiki Side note says Afghanistan Country in South Asia instead of central-south Asia which is more accurate and precise according to the world atlas and updated geography textbook. We don't share ethnic groups of south Asia nor are we culturally or ethnically similar central Asia. . So how can you say "I think" to prove ur argument when u used an opinion to start you sentence.

  • So you want it to be Central-South Asia? that does not sound well, does it? It sounds like the central point of S-Asia which I think is far from what you want.. South and then Central is the correct order for any geographic mentioning. on Afghanistan's location, yes ofcourse I agree with you. The country is indeed Central Asian only because of political reasons it is sometimes included in South Asia especially since the 1990s. Probably because the post soviet states are more or less the same and shared the same 100 year-long fate Casperti (talk) 20:06, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

no I want it to be Central Asia since its more accurate. If we were truly south asian country we would at least have an ethnic group from the Indian subcontinental but we dont. if you look at all the users and their ip address who are trying to force south asian on us are from either India or Pakistan. what I meant to say was south of Central Asia trying to explain the specific part of Central Asia but nontheless Central Asia. We have no culture and ethnic ties to south asia since every single ethnic group comes from either west Asia or Central Asia. We don't have any ethnic or cultural ties to South Asia since we are iranic and turkic heritage/ethnic. So why does politics of the 90s have to have a narrative on where our ethnic, cultural and geographic ties lay? before 2005 we were not even part of the saarc which is only for the business purposes that India was pressuring us to be apart of. Rubinastan (talk) 20:12, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

  •  Not done. The CIA World Fact Book lists the country as South Asian. Regional divisions of Asia are defined by both geographical and cultural terms, so just because Afghanistan is listed as South Asian does not make the country ethnically identical to its southern neighbors. Wikipedia merely reiterates what is stated in reliable sources, and since sources say both, we reflect this. Also see Central Asia and South Asia. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 12:06, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Literally all Afghans see their country as part of Central Asia so who are you to say otherwise? Who is the un anyways to dictate where Afghanistan is located? 99.247.39.72 (talk) 21:17, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

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