Talk:1995 Brazilian Grand Prix/Archive 1

Archive 1

Hill's retirement

Hill actually had a suspension failure which caused his retirement. At the time, he had lost second gear during the previous lap and said that "everything locked up" when he selected third in the Senna S, which appears to have influenced the offical results, but Autocourse reports that Williams' post-race analysis confirmed that the problem was a broken left-rear suspension pushrod (p. 91). There's also a photograph on the same page of the Williams, taken the instant it starts to spin, showing that the left-rear wheel is clearly at an unnatural angle. In addition, Adrian Newey discusses the failure in the Williams team review on page 48: "This was a manufacturing problem. The component was a tried and tested part which we had been using all the previous season. It was physically the same design as we'd used on FW16, now coping with rather less downforce, so it should have been well in. Sure, it was aggravated by the bumpy track surface at Interlagos, but it stood up all right the previous year on a car which hadn't been good over the bumps." The precise point of failure is also narrowed down to the pushrod's turn buckle, where it connected to the bellcrank, on the same page.--Diniz(talk) 22:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Fuel rigs

I see that the section on malfunctioning fuel rigs has been moved to the main 1995 Formula One season article in the interests of not making this article too long. However, I think it should be mentioned in the background here, as I believe concern over possible fuel leakages caused some of the slow pit-stops during the race. In addition, the Autosport issue after the race seems to indicate that it was at least a big a controversy as the drivers' weigh-in or the Ligier-Benetton similarities, both of which are included in this article.--Midgrid(talk) 17:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Not sure. Were there also slower pitstops in the following races? If so, I think it should stay in the main season article - but if it primarily concerns this race, then it could be put in. D.M.N. (talk) 19:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

There was the occasional slow pit stop, but for this race the teams were specifically given a directive to be cautious with the equipment, which I believe did not apply in any of the following races. The refuelling issue is covered several times in the week's Autosport:

• • First story in the "Pit & Paddock" section, comments from Ron Dennis about the testing leak, speculation that refuelling could be banned immediately, even at the cost of having two aggregate races per round.
  • Editor Bruce Jones' leader comment is on the issue, and concludes with advice to the FIA to ban refuelling for 1996.
  • Part of Nigel Roebuck's Fifth Column is also on the issue, and also concludes that refuelling should be banned.
  • From the race report: "The pit stops continued to make observers nervous, and must have had a rather more virulent effect on those actually carrying them out. Refuelling nozzles seemed often to stick, and several times sprays of fuel could be seen. Mercifully though, there were to be no fires." From my own observation of the TV coverage, many of the pit crews do seem to be more cautious than would be explained by the fact that they were less used to it than they are now.
  • Roebuck's "Talking Point" section of the race report also mentions the issue, along with other aspects of the race, all of which are currently in the article.

So I think a mention of the uncertainty over the new rigs in practice, combined with the directive from Intertechnique, a mention that this was a contributary factor to slow pit stops, and a post-race mention that some observers argued that refuelling should be banned, could be included in the article, even if most of the detail is confined to the season article. I must say that one of my (extremely) long-term plans is to attempt a Refuelling in Formula One article, which should be interesting!--Midgrid(talk) 20:19, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll put something in in the next few days.

Regarding the article suggestion - I think that would be a pretty easy article to put together! I don't mean that in a "we'll be done in 5 minutes" type of thing, but the references are out there so it shouldn't be extremely hard to find sources. There's a bit of content in the Allegations of cheating in the 1994 Formula One season article which could be copied/pasted in there. D.M.N. (talk) 20:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I can put the content in myself, I just wanted to check that it was OK as it was in there before but had previously been removed. And the fuel article project will have to wait a while, as I've got the 1995 articles, Forti, WP:MII and other things to do first. ;) --Midgrid(talk) 20:51, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I've readded a bit from the season article into the Background section regarding the fuel. Feel free to add/take away anything. ;-( D.M.N. (talk) 08:30, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, I've been on holiday. I'll add a bit into the race section as soon as possible.--Midgrid(talk) 17:22, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Right, I'm all done! :) --Midgrid(talk) 20:24, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! D.M.N. (talk) 08:14, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

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