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Verywell Health article[edit]

Link requested to be whitelisted: verywellhealth.com/half-of-adults-fully-vaccinated-5186310

verywellhealth.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

Based on the WP:RSP listing, it looks like this site is sometimes considered reliable, but is blocked due to persistent abuse. I'd like to use this specific article as a citation in an edit request for Families USA. Thanks! Mary Gaulke (talk) 17:12, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blingee on Blingee[edit]

I understand having this site blacklisted generally, but I was attempting to update the actual entry for Blingee. This is difficult to do without being able to link to the site at all, where a lot of the more recent news is located. Specifically, I would like to whitelist two forum posts which give an updated status as to the functionality of the website today. Amkoir (talk) 21:00, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Amkoir: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:38, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cgap.org Babban Gona Article[edit]

Link requested to be whitelisted: cgap.org/blog/where-youth-join-trust-groups-not-insurgency-groups

I am requesting for the this webpage of cpag.org to be unblocked as it contains vital information about an organization Babban Gona, which I am currently creating a page. It has important information about the company's operations, milestones and its services. I have checked for other sources and I am yet to find a more suitable alternative.BabbanGona (talk) 11:01, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@BabbanGona: as you are declaring a conflict of interest, I strongly suggest that you create this article in draft space (i.e. Draft:Babban Gona). If this blog is critical then you do however have a problem with our inclusion standards - you need reliable independent sources to show use. For now I will put this request  On hold, please come back when you can show where it is needed in an almost-ready-to-publish draft. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:40, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Beetstra: Thanks for your prompt response. I am unable to create a draft of this article because of the cpag.org blacklist, which I used to cite some statements. Are you suggesting I publish the draft and the statements without citing cpag.org and then this can be once it has been whitelisted?BabbanGona (talk) 12:09, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@BabbanGona: yes, that is what I mean. Dirk Beetstra T C 12:16, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Beetstra: Thanks for your input. I have published the draft and included asterisks to signify where the cgap.org article is needed. It is now available on Draft:Babban Gona. BabbanGona (talk) 12:49, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request to add PoolGenie to whitelist[edit]

poolgenie.xyz: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

I was trying to add sources to paragraphs I added in Decentralized Finance, blockchain and market maker from the docs.poolgenie.xyz.

The website was however rejected because of the ".xyz" extension that is blacklisted by Wikipedia.

The paragraphs I want to add in the before-mentioned Wikipedia pages are partly composed of important information extracted from the docs.poolgenie.xyz that provides articles about Decentralized Finance new topics and explains some major concepts related to cryptocurrency and blockchains, specifically to yield farming, liquidity providing, automated market makers and decentralized finance.

The information provided is relevant and should be added to the mentioned Wikipedia articles to keep them updated since Decentralized Finance is a new hot topic and the docs.poolgenie.xyz explains in detail many of its major ideas such as impermanent loss, a very important concept in Decentralized Finance, for which I plan on creating a Wikipedia Page about, using information extracted from the docs.poolgenie.xyz.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kran9910 (talk • contribs)

Site Removel Proposal From Blacklist[edit]

Please remove 99lyricstore.com from blacklist domain. I have not seen warning that's why I'm putting links again and again. I will never do that again please remove 99lyricstore.com domain from blacklist. GamerAakash (talk) 05:13, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@GamerAakash: this is the whitelisting page, removals from blacklist have to go to the blacklisting page, so:  Defer to Local blacklist (but please read the instructions at the top of that page). I note here already that you got a warning here and here on October 4, 2021. That has resulted in an orange banner at the top of your wikipedia page. You continued to edit on October 10 2021, so you had the chance to see the warning. Moreover, another account, user:Raftaar Hip-Hop got warnings for spamming this site in July 2019 and August 2019, however added it between the warnings (diff and diff - hence had a chance to read the warnings but did not take action) and after: diff. Warnings were issued, warnings were not heeded, spamming continued, now we protect Wikipedia from these (unwanted) additions. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:53, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It is even worth throwing in the copyright issues around publishing copyrighted lyrics without permissions? There is ZERO benefit to Wikipedia to permit links to this site. It is not a reliable source, it doesn't meet WP:EL criteria. And this request isn't coming from an established editor, but the site owner with a vested interest in promoting their site. Ravensfire (talk) 13:52, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done No compelling reason given for delisting, wrong page anyway. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:51, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Katie Armstrong on Owlcation[edit]

This domain was blocked because the content is user-generated and of highly variable quality, with the expectation that individual pages would be unblocked case-by-case: MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/October 2020#HubPages.com niche domains

I'd like to request whitelisting of three pages and an index page by one particular author.

  • Link requested to be whitelisted: owlcation.com/@katiearmstrong
  • Link requested to be whitelisted: owlcation.com/humanities/History-of-Kimono-Part-2-Nara-and-Heian-Periods
  • Link requested to be whitelisted: owlcation.com/humanities/History-of-Kimono-Part-3-The-Medieval-Period
  • Link requested to be whitelisted: owlcation.com/humanities/History-of-Kimono-Part-4-The-Early-Modern-Period-Edo-Period

These seem to contain good English-language summaries (with bibliographies) that would be useful in kimono and Japanese clothing#History. HLHJ (talk) 00:47, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ludwig.guru[edit]

ludwig.guru: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

The whole .guru domain is blacklisted as mostly used by spammers, but ludwig.guru is a notable exception: it's a sentence search engine that, unlike Google, searches only reliable sources (mainstream media, newspapers etc) rather than the whole web.

It is targeted to professional writers, journalists, translators etc as a tool that "helps you write better English by giving you contextualized examples taken from reliable sources", and it would be very useful on Talk pages, for example to discuss WP:COMMONNAME matters. I've just used it to check which one is more common: targeted to or targeted towards (it's the former btw, 87% vs 13%).

It has a freemium business model, so anyone would be able to open a link to the site, not just subscribers. I am not connected to the company; I am just a satisfied subscriber who was surprised to discover that wikipedians aren't already using it. --Deeday-UK (talk) 14:41, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Deeday-UK: Isn't "toward" the correct word instead of "towards"?
 Done. I have no objection. We have whitelisted other .guru domains. ~Anachronist (talk) 06:54, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I'm not sure about toward/towards; I keep mixing them up! --Deeday-UK (talk) 11:11, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Creo Inc. request to whitelist company-histories.com page related to Creo Inc. company history[edit]

I just did a basic clean-up of Creo Inc. and then tried to add an EL to a more expansive company history, per:

  • Link requested to be whitelisted: company-histories.com/Creo-Inc-Company-History.html (Creo Inc. company history)

Unfortunately, this site is apparently blacklisted for reasons unknown to me. However, I respectfully submit that this page (at least) adds significant value to the Creo Inc. article and suggest that this page (at least) is white listed.
Enquire (talk) 21:48, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done, sorry - that one is blacklisted as a massive copyright violation farm; see the RFC. We cannot link to those. I've verified that the entry you're wanting to link to is a straight-up copy of International Directory of Company Histories, Vol. 48.. Just use this:
<ref>{{cite book | last=Derdak | first=T. | last2=Grant | first2=T. | title=International Directory of Company Histories | publisher=St. James Press | issue=v. 48 | year=2002 | isbn=978-1-55862-466-5 | url=https://books.google.com/books?id=tgPYAAAAMAAJ | access-date=2021-10-21 | page=123}}</ref> Kuru (talk) 00:50, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request to whitelist mentaldaily.com[edit]

mentaldaily.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

Please see discussion on WikiMedia for more details on the reason for the request, one user there had suggested a local whitelisting of the domain in this local area of Wiki. Multi7001 (talk) 14:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Multi7001: no Declined, this was heavily spammed recently, a block did not help, local blacklisting did not help. Ask for a spcific link for a specific goal, but we are not going to blanket whitelist this after the abuse we have seen from this domain. --Dirk Beetstra T C 19:03, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I could not imagine an SEO spambot being used in this instance. I do agree with your logic, however. I will see if the specific article from Mental Daily actually warrants inclusion in a Wiki page and if so, will ask for its inclusion rather than just the whole domain. Thank you for the input! Multi7001 (talk) 04:01, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Multi7001: the subject page does generally warrant links, and we do commonly whitelist for use as an official website (and/or some documents as primary sources). Please see MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist/Common_requests#The_official_homepage_of_the_subject_of_a_page for what we can do there. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:35, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Verywell Health article[edit]

Link requested to be whitelisted: verywellhealth.com/half-of-adults-fully-vaccinated-5186310

verywellhealth.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

Based on the WP:RSP listing, it looks like this site is sometimes considered reliable, but is blocked due to persistent abuse. I'd like to use this specific article as a citation in an edit request for Families USA. Note: This is a repost because my previous post was archived without a response. I apologize if this isn't permitted. Thanks! Mary Gaulke (talk) 14:29, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

gcaptain.com[edit]

gcaptain.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

Link requested to be whitelisted: gcaptain.com/fire-fire-fire-how-navy-failures-destroyed-the-uss-bonhomme-richard/

I fail to see what's wrong with that site, it seems to be a news site by, and for marine industry professionals. -- Seelefant (talk) 18:00, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Seelefant: no Declined. half of it is what the original report says (and hence that report is the source), the other half a personal account. Gcaptain is not an (original) news site, it is regurgitating original news. --Dirk Beetstra T C 04:06, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like standard journalism practices to me and completely unrelated to the purpose of this filter, to prevent spam. -- Seelefant (talk) 07:39, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it comes closer to Churnalism. The site has 5 sections according to their about (gcaptain.com/about/): "Maritime And Offshore News" ("...gCaptain’s blog is the source of news and articles written by the leading maritime and offshore experts ..." .. a blog), "Forums", "Job Board", "Newsletter" and "Sponsorship" ("gCaptain.com sponsorship is a great way to get your products or services in front of a targeted readership of professionals working in marine transportation, offshore oil and gas, and commercial shipping industries."). I recognise that sometimes a blog post can be of interest, but here, again, half of the article is a regurgitation of what a report says (and if there is anything there that you want to use then use the original source), and a personal reflection.
The filter was indeed instated because of spamming.
I expect that you will have to see if you can make a case that the information you want to use from that blog post is unique and of sufficient quality. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:04, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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