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Missed page break

Amazing tool! Just wanted to note, page 2 of Kevin Trudeau's article:

"natural cure" for diabetes that was researched at the University of Calgary. The

"The" should be on page 3, but ends up right justified on page 2 on the same line as "Calgary." Just wanted to give a heads up. Thanks. - RoyBoy 02:30, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Wonky things

HI, when I download this book as a pdf, several wonky things happen. I don't know if it's me or the software. First, the cover design I created on the wikipedia page doesn't carry over to the pdf download. Second, all the animal pedigrees in various articles that were done with the Ahnentafel template Template:Ahnentafel-compact5 render weird (compare article Bask to the version of it in on page 96 in the pdf to see what I mean). Third, the articles Indraff, Raseyn and Khemosabi doesn't render at all, I get the raw text with the message: "WARNING: Article could not be rendered - ouputting plain text. Potential causes of the problem are: (a) a bug in the pdf-writer software (b) problematic Mediawiki markup (c) table is too wide." Which could also perhaps be an issue with the ahnentfel template, but I can't say for sure. Finally, the Table of contentsin the pdf is just bizarre. It starts out with a TOC that omits half the articles, then restarts and lists all of them. If anyone wants to help me out here, I'm all ears. Before I try to send any of this to print in hardcopy (for about 40 bucks! =:-O ) I don't want there to be any unpleasant surprises... (that and I clearly want to edit a few of the articles some more but that's a different issue! LOL!) I have no idea if this is relevant, but I am using a Mac with OSX Leopard and the Safari browser. I have read the file in both the OSX Preview sortware and in Adobe reader with the same results. Help! Help! Montanabw(talk) 21:18, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


  • For the moment, the covert art is only used to update the PediaPress database (every now and then, PediaPress uploads all books on its catalog, using the colors and art). When ordering the book, you'll be able to select art and cover color again. The PDFs will probably use the cover color and image in the future, although when exactly I can't tell you.
  • {{Ahnentafel-compact5}} (and variants) causes a bunch of problem at the moment. The problem is that table cell attributes aren't recognized.
  • The articles which don't render are caused by huge table cells (A cell must fit in one book page).
  • I'll look into the TOC issues. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 23:02, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
So, until there is a fix, is it the Ahnentafel also causing the problem on the pages of the articles that aren't rendering, or do you think it's the infoboxes? IS there a table format I could use to render the pedigrees that WOULD fit? (A simple table format or something, anything??) Thanks for the info! Montanabw(talk) 21:27, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the long delay in response, I was attending Wikimania 2010, and I'm currently traveling Europe.

There is a ticket for this issue.

First a follow up, I've filed a bug report for the TOC problem. You can check the link in the red box at the right. Second, it is indeed the Ahnentafel templates which are causing the article not to render (these are huge trees, and they are contained within one cell which cannot fit on one page). As far as using another type of table, I'm not sure what could work, but if you have ideas let me know (the problem seem to be the vertical length, so I would maybe splitting the table in two, and try to reproduce same visual appearance could work). If you just want to order a book which renders correctly, and don't care about a long-term fix, you could take a screenshot of these ahnentafel tables, then do something like replacing

Bla bla bla bla
{{Ahnentafel | ... | ... }}
Bla bla bla bla

with

Bla bla bla bla
{{hide in print
|1={{Ahnentafel | ... | ... }}
}}
{{only in print
|1=[[File:Screenshot.png]]
}}
Bla bla bla bla

While this is an ugly solution, it probably is the fastest way to render these tables correctly. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 11:12, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Conversion templates: no commas

There is a ticket for this issue.

When {{convert}} is used for a value in a book or single-article pdf, the separator comma (or whatever the mark that's put in every three digits-12,345,678-is called) that normally appears onscreen does not translate over to the pdfs. -- saberwyn 09:08, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

I'll look into it.Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 11:13, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Alright, I found the problem. I filed a bug report. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 11:42, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Can't open downloaded PDF file

I downloaded a PDF file. But it doesn't work. It can't be opened by any software. All of them say it is corrupted or not a PDF file. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemodomi (talkcontribs) 02:08, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Moved form Help talk:Books/FAQ

Legal issues

What are the copyright, attribution and authorship rules regarding the creation and distribution of a WikiBook? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.234.101.187 (talk) 17:55, 23 July 2010 (UTC)