Draft talk:Reuven Opher

Notability needs work

A good start. However, while you have described his life well you have not established notability. For this he would need a strong publication record with many citations, which he does not appear to have, and/or major recognition from international scientific organizations of his contributions. Perhaps you can trim some of the CV details, which are not so informative, and find some independent awards and other recognitions of his notability in the community. Then resubmit, at present it would be premature to have this article as it is. Ldm1954 (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I am new at this, so all advice is appreciated. I looked up Reuven Opher in Google Scholar, and it came back with about 653 results for papers published, which would seem to be what I need. I will also check and see if there is any recognition from international scientific organizations.

R1237h (talk) 07:05, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

He needs both a good h-factor and awards that show that the wider community considered him notable. It does not matter what you or I think or say, others have to have demonstrated his notability Ldm1954 (talk) 12:22, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Sorry for the delay in responding, family issue came up. On researchgate I found that he has a h-factor of 20, which I added to the draft. In regards to awards, I am not quite sure what an award in this field would be, so am unsure what to look for. Lastly, on research gate it also mentioned that Reuven's Research Interest Score is higher than 85% of ResearchGate members. Not sure tis is relevant, and if so, how to integrate it into the draft. Is what I added enough to publish the draft? R1237h (talk) 04:48, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

I strongly suggest that you leave this article alone for some months, perhaps more. I think it would be wise to get more experience first. Pick some areas where you are comfortable and there are pages which need work, for instance there is Water polo which needs work. I am sure there are others, you could look in this list. Maybe also look at what people are posting on WP:Teahouse, focusing more on how they are answered so you get the hang of how things work.

With more experience you could also look at other places such as other articles being put up for inclusion at WP:AFCS and also deletion WP:AFDSORT. Be careful and tactful, see what othres say and be prepared to have a thick skin if you make comments!

I think you should be realistic about this article. What we consider to be notable depends upon the discipline, you can look at some of the discussion in WT:NPROF. For his area his publication record is not that big, so by itself it would not make him notable. If he had been given awards by major societies those help as they are independent verification by his peers that he is notable. This might involve quite a lot of work, and might not lead anywhere (which happens). You might contact various people who knew him well for help, for instance the organizers of the memorial conference. Perhaps 1 in 3 will respond.

When you know more I think it will be easier to return to this article and decide if you want to pursue it. Not everyone has documentation/proof that gets them onto Wikipedia, even though they are notable. Ldm1954 (talk) 08:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. These sound like very reasonable suggestions, so I will spend some time learning, and come back to this when I am more experienced. R1237h (talk) 06:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)