Draft talk:Michele Evans

Article now sufficiently sourced.

The following substantial, independent, secondary sources have been located and clear up expressed concerns about existing sources:

• https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/nyregion/rikers-island-authors.html
• https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/creative-rikers-island-inmates-writing-books-to-pass-the-time-hfbkdpkzb
• https://web.archive.org/web/20080430180657/http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/23/parker-actress-road-to-dream-tv-gig-with-robin/

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The new articles written in the last couple of days by The New York Times and The Times (London) are a significant development that warrant revisiting and provide sufficient evidence of the subject's notability for Wikipedia standards. The articles meets the following criteria for a reliable and independent source:

- They provide significant coverage of Evans and her personal story as a former inmate at Rikers Island who became an author. It describes the main themes and messages of her book, the challenges and opportunities she faced in writing and publishing it etc.

- They are reliable, as The New York Times is a well-known and respected newspaper that has a high editorial standard and a reputation for accuracy and integrity. It is not a self-published or questionable source that lacks credibility or verification.

- They are independent of the subject, as it is not connected to Evans or her book in any way. It is not a press release, a review, an interview, or a promotional piece that is intended to endorse or advertise her book. It is a neutral and objective report that presents both the positive and negative aspects of her story and her work.

- They provide photos taken by the New York Times which are prominently featured at the beginning and throughout the article.

- They are secondary, as it is not a primary source that directly reflects Evans's own views or experiences. It is a journalistic article that analyzes and evaluates her book and her story from an external perspective, using multiple sources of information and evidence.

The articles from The New York Times and The Times (London) pass the notability check for Wikipedia inclusion and can be used as a reliable and independent source to support the creation or improvement of a Wikipedia article about Evans or her book.

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This new Rocky Mountain News article supports Michele Evans's Wikipedia notability in the following ways:

- It provides significant coverage of Evans's career.

- It is reliable, as it is from the Rocky Mountain News, a reputable newspaper that was published in Denver, Colorado from 1859 to 2009. It is not a self-published or questionable source that lacks credibility or verification.

- It is independent of the subject, as it is not connected to Evans in any way. It is not a press release, a review, or a promotional piece that is intended to endorse or advertise her work. It is a neutral and objective report.

- It is secondary, as it is not a primary source that directly reflects Evans's own views or experiences. It is a journalistic article. PenmanWarrior (talk) 18:35, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Then re-submit and let other reviewers take a look. Theroadislong (talk) 18:42, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

PenmanWarrior, let me be honest - it is better to have a short(er), well-sourced draft than whatever it was that was last declined. I have removed a bunch of guff from the page, things that are largely irrelevant to demonstrating that Evans is notable and which clutter the page and make it less likely to be approved.

That being said, I also added a lot of {{citation needed}} templates because there is a lot of unsourced information. Please either provide a source or remove that content (as well as fixing the {{failed verification}} issue with Tiger Woods). Primefac (talk) 19:19, 22 February 2024 (UTC)