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Translating Japanese[edit]

I'm sure you are aware by now that you can't just copy/paste translated text into an article. If you are working with dates or years then you might (at the very least) want to familiarize yourself with Japanese numbers, and their calendar. When working on 5 yen note for example, I found that even when translated the dates were wrong (明治18 is not 1887 as the translation told me). AI is useful as a stepping stone, you still have to put the source summary in your own words, and you still have to fill in the gaps to the best of your knowledge. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:31, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Knowledgekid87 I completely understand. Imo the article I did with was Omiki but I didn’t know what Ninenmairi (二年参り) was and all the machine translation engines kept calling it a two year visit which gave me no results, my first impression being it was the second year you were a parishioner of the Shrine. I eventually only found something by taking the kanji and googling it
I’m surprised it would mess up something so basic as Meiji dates.
I have actually formally studied Japanese but some of the grammar and kanji really gets to me. I think I’m better with kanji than I used to be though.
Did you see anything particularly I got wrong? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 14:57, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Knowledgekid87 also btw I tried to avoid tagging you in the thread so idk if linking your profile made the bot say an ANI was about you or I just messed up. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 15:06, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Knowledgekid87 Do you feel you have more to add on this? Also really surprised they thought Meiji 18 was 1887. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 20:30, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I recommend using dictionaries than machine translators, I personally recommend https://jisho.org/, but there are other ones like takoboto and jpdb.io but they all use the same database in the end.
Regarding dates, you can search up Japanese dates on jisho and it will give you the gregorian calendar results, like for example 明治18 will give you 1885. WanderingMorpheme 14:36, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@WanderingMorpheme yeah I’ve found dictionaries are very helpful. In the page translations I feel I did the best I used dictionaries a lot.
If I were to ever get back the privileges I’d be using dictionaries heavily.
One of the things that has most intrigued me about Japanese history is the Draft:Yamato no Kuni no Miyatsuko which intrigued me specifically because it was so heavily botched by all machine translation. Yamato Kokuzo became made in Japan and it was so confusing. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 19:49, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Knowledgekid87did you have something you wanted to say here about Japanese? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 00:55, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Im all good, thanks =) I follow things regarding Japanese in general so i was curious on what articles you were submitting. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:00, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Knowledgekid87 Yeah I've been making big progress lately. I'm really happy about it. The Kanji that I mentioned in the ANI were going to start getting deleted are finally getting deleted so my talk page isn't that useful. Several articles I really wanted to get through for a long time like Shrine Parishioner Registration, Gehōbako, Hiromine Shrine, Dei of Wa, Shinshi and Aso clan got through, and I managed to get through articles that I even hadn't been working on for a long time like Kannamesai Festival.
The big I'm really hoping will get through is Draft:Chōkaisan Ōmonoimi Shrine. Would you be up for translating Japanese sources to help me out with the article? It is one of my favorite shrines and I could send you sources so you could interpret them. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 01:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Update though that one got through afc Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 23:27, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Immanuelle, I recently cleaned up your recently accepted AfC submission Shinshi and just want to let you know that you have to wrap Japanese words (even if they're in romaji) in templates for accessibility reasons, MOS:OTHERLANG. Also the title for Japanese words like Shinshi need to be italicized (see Kami for an example). I've done some work on the Shinshi article but in the future please wrap foreign language terms in the correct language template, thank you. WanderingMorpheme 01:39, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@WanderingMorpheme thank you. What do you mean by template wrapping? The only such template I am familiar with is Template:Nihongo Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 01:41, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wrapping might not have been the best word, but essentially what I mean is that you put foreign words (in your case Japanese) in the lang template. I see you use the visual editor a lot so what you want to do in most cases is bring up the Lang template in the template editor and put "ja-Latn" as your language tag setting and then you put the Japanese word in the "Text" setting. WanderingMorpheme 01:48, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@WanderingMorpheme what is a wandering morpheme? Is it like an infix? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 08:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@WanderingMorpheme I think I might want to propose a change to the visual editor to make this kind of edit easier with it in the village pump. I think certain inline templates should be able to be inserted by highlighting text and selecting a template Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 08:21, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well @WanderingMorpheme and @Knowledgekid87 I think I will be off to take a break. Been wanting to do it for the past week but the whole craze of finally getting a timely AFC review as a possibility and the still ongoing ANI issue meant I decided against doing it this week. I think I will spend hopefully at least a week on break from wikipedia relaxing elsewhere. I hope I will be more refreshed and I hope that I will come back to seeing the few drafts I have submitted approved. Almos5t all the drafts I was most serious about have been approved or otherwise resolved so that makes me really happy. All the submissions I have going on right now with the exception of draft:Oyamakui no kami are ones I never even thought I would be in the position to attempt to push through a week earlierImmanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 03:19, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Enjoy the break! You can always ask for help with articles. I can semi-comfortably read and understand Japanese, so if you ever need an (unprofessional) second opinion you can ask me. WanderingMorpheme 23:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@WanderingMorpheme thank you that would be really helpful. tbh for a very long time I was asking for help on articles but I was never able to find anyone to help with them.
Here's a passage I'm really curious about what it is talking about, but I really cannot comprehend it. I think it might be fairly unclear even in Japanese but I'm not quite sure. It is from Japanese wikipedia and covering the differing foundation myths of the two main subshrines of Chōkaisan Ōmonoimi Shrine. Do you feel qualified to weigh in on whether its well sourced or well written? There are definitely a few cases where I believe I encountered pretty bad articles like this one ja:邪馬壹国説 in the past.
=== 創建に関する諸説 ===
景行天皇または欽明天皇時代の創祀と伝えられるが、創建時期には諸説があり、山頂社殿が噴火焼失と再建を繰り返しているための勧請も絡んでいて、時期の特定は困難である[1]。鳥海山の登山口は、主要なものだけで矢島、小滝、吹浦、蕨岡の4ヶ所(鳥海修験 も参照のこと)があり、各登山口ごとに異なる伝承が伝わるうえに、登山口ごとに信徒が一定の勢力を構成して、互いに反目競争することも多かったため、それらの伝承が歪められることも多く、定説をみない状況である[1]
==== 吹浦の伝承 ====
吹浦の社については、元禄16年(1703年)に芹沢貞運が記した『大物忌小物忌縁起』において、景行天皇のとき出羽国に神が現れ、欽明天皇25年 (564年) に飽海郡山上に鎮まり、大同元年 (806年) に吹浦村に遷座したとある記述があり、現在の社伝はこの吹浦の創建についての伝承を踏襲しているとされる[1]。なお、大同元年は空海が唐から帰国した年にあたり、東北の多くの寺社で創建の年とされているという[1]
日本三代実録貞観13年(871年)5月16日の条にある出羽国司の報告から、飽海郡山上に大物忌神社があったことが確認できるが[2]、大物忌神社の鎮座地は飽海郡にある山の上とあるのみで、上記の吹浦についての言及はない[3]
創建に関する吹浦の伝承として、他に、吹浦の信徒が蕨岡の勢力に対抗して宝永2年(1705年)に寺社奉行所に提出した「乍恐口上書を以申上候事」という文書に、慈覚大師(円仁)が開基したとの記載がある[1]。この記載は、蕨岡に伝わる縁起に対抗する意味合いが強かったと思われるが、現在も吹浦には慈覚大師直筆とされる天台智顗の図像と金胎両界曼荼羅図が保管されている[1]
その他、吹浦の「大日本国大物忌大明神縁起」(成立年代不明)には、地元の他の伝承と融合したと思われる「卵生神話」が記されており、「天地が混沌とした中から両所大菩薩・月氏霊神・百済明神が現れ、大鳥の翼に乗って、天竺から百済を経て日本に渡来した。左翼にあった二つの卵から両所大菩薩が、右翼にあった一つの卵から丸子元祖が生まれ、鳥は北峰の池に沈んだ。景行天皇のとき、二神が出羽国に現れ、仲哀天皇のとき、三韓征伐で功績をたてたので、正一位を授かり勲一等を得た。用明天皇のとき、師安元年6月15日に、二神は飽海郡飛沢に鎮まった」という[1]。なお、丸子氏は、遊佐町丸子に住み、鳥海山信仰に大きな影響を与えた一族である可能性があるとされる[1]。その後、貞観6年(864年)、慈覚大師(円仁)が鳥海山から五色の光が放たれているのに気づいて、登ろうとすると、青鬼と赤鬼が妨害したので、火生三昧の法で対抗したところ、鬼は観念して、今後は鳩般恭王として大師に従い仏法を守護すると誓ったという[1]。そして、円融院の代(969年から984年)に朝廷から両所大菩薩と命名されたという[1]
上記の「卵生神話」は朝鮮の「三国遺事」や「三国史記」にも記載があり、外来の伝承が存在したことが推測されるが、鳥を先祖とするトーテミズム的な発想は、中世に成立した「鳥海山」の名称と関連していて、現在も地元に伝わる霊鳥伝説ともつながりを持っており、中世から近世にかけて成立した伝承である可能性が高いとされる[1]
永正7年(1510年)の『羽黒山年代記』では、鳥海山は飽海嶽と呼ばれていたとして、欽明天皇7年(546年)に神が出現した後、貞観2年(860年)に、慈覚大師(円仁)が青鬼と赤鬼を退治した後、山の外観が龍に似ているとして、龍の頭部にみえる箇所(龍頭)に権現堂を建て、寺号を龍頭寺(りゅうとうじ)として、さらに、鳥の海に因んで山号を鳥海山としたとされており、卵生神話の記載はないものの、上記の「大日本国大物忌大明神縁」と共通する内容となっている[1]。なお、現在の龍頭寺は大同2年 (807年) に慈照上人が開いたとされており、上述の空海の帰国の年に合わせられているほか、慈照上人の実在が確認されておらず、慈覚大師(円仁)の錯誤である可能性もあるが、『羽黒山年代記』の貞観2年に開かれたとする記述とは年代が離れている[1]
==== 蕨岡の伝承 ====
吹浦とは別の縁起が伝わる蕨岡の「鳥海山記并序」(宝永6年、1709年)では、役行者が開山したとする前提で、行者がはじめて山に登ったとき、「鳥の海」をみたことから「鳥海山」と名づけられたとしている[1]。なお、社の創建のとき、山に名称はなく、現在の「鳥海山」という山名ができた由来には諸説あり、山上にあって霊鳥が生息すると言い伝えられる「鳥の海」によるとする説が有力である[1]
蕨岡に伝わる他の縁起では、「鳥海山縁起和讃」(嘉永5年、1852年)に、天武天皇のとき、山の神の命により、役行者が山中に出没する鬼を退治し、開山したと記されている[1]。この縁起は、吹浦に伝わる慈覚大師(円仁)の創建とする説よりも年代を古い説を唱え、対抗しようという意図がみられるとされる[1]
関連して、蕨岡の東之院興源は「出羽國一宮鳥海山略縁起」(安政4年、1857年)の中で、役行者が山中に神の眷属である三十六王子を祀り山の守護神としたという記載があり、実際に、蕨岡では山道に三十六王子を祀っていたという[1]。 ニギハヤヒが天鳥船に乗り、上空から眺めて、トリミヤマと名付け、それが転訛し、鳥海(とりみ)山となりチョウカイザンと呼ぶ様になった。
Also you might be interested in this move discussion Talk:Saiō#Requested_move_13_November_2023 Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 00:18, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the offer! I'll definitely keep a note of it and maybe I'll check it out when I have the time. WanderingMorpheme 00:25, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@WanderingMorpheme you really have a cool name. Is it like an infix? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 19:58, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly I just smashed two words together lmao, the morpheme part is just there because I'm mildly interested in linguistics. WanderingMorpheme 20:44, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Did you get around to it? I’m bumping this so it doesn’t archive Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 02:05, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r 鈴木正崇 (March 2012). "山岳信仰の展開と変容 : 鳥海山の歴史民俗学的考察". 哲學. 128. 三田哲學會: 447–514. ISSN 0563-2099. PMID 1050282813923501952. {{cite journal}}: Check |pmid= value (help); Text "和書" ignored (help)
  2. ^ 『日本三代実録』貞観13年(871年)5月16日の条には「出羽國司言。従三位勳五等大物忌神社在飽海郡山上。巖石壁立。人跡稀到。夏冬戴雪。禿無草木。去四月八日山上有火。」と記述されている。
  3. ^ 『山形県史 通史編第1巻 原始・古代・中世編』では、四時雪を戴いて草木も生えず、登山困難な高山で、しかも4月8日に噴火したとあるので鳥海山と推定される、と述べている。山形県 『山形県史 通史編第1巻 原始・古代・中世編』 山形県 1979年3月 より。

Announcing another break[edit]

I am a big wikipediaholic but I intend on going on break for a while. I'm really happy with my work this past week and think it was well worth it to effectively delay my break. Sadly the ANI is still going on, but I got a lot of drafts into mainspace taking advantage of an opportunity that might not be available in later times. I have a few drafts still waiting on review, but they are all recent ones, and two are specific related to a move discussion. I hope this time the break is more effective Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 04:45, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Asilvering can you do your best to get the ANI thread closed soon. It is really on my mind and harming my ability to relax for the break. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 05:18, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ugh, I'm so sorry. I really did hope that my Nov 7 proposal would make everything obvious enough that someone would pick up the close, but no luck... I tried posting it at WP:CR on the 11th, and still no one has stepped up. I'm not really sure what's going on because I don't think it's a particularly contentious close and several recent commenters have pointed out that the thread has been open far too long. There really does not appear to be any consensus for the editing restrictions that would force you to mass-delete drafts on a quick deadline, so I hope there's some comfort for you in that at least. -- asilvering (talk) 05:34, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Asilvering yeah it’s good to see that. I think consensus is against the 20 draft cap too but it might be too close a vote for them to want to close it.
It’s half of ANI at this point.
Also in your interpretation am I allowed to make dab pages without going through afc? I’ve been a bit confused about that. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 05:43, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The person to ask is probably the one who closed the original ANI thread. But dab pages are pretty easy AfC accepts and should go through pretty quickly so I don't think it's a big deal to submit those through AfC in any case. -- asilvering (talk) 09:39, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Asilvering happily as you can see from the talk page messages, I am finally starting to see my drafts starting to autodelete Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 07:07, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And it finally was resolved *phew* Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 02:12, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You're free! I hope you enjoy your break. -- asilvering (talk) 05:14, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Asilvering Yeah for the first time I feel like I can genuinely just walk away without really having negative consequences.
I am a bit entangled with the move discussions at Saikū and Saiō. I can’t say it’s nearly as stressful as the ANI at all, but in my understanding an editor is engaging in Wikipedia:Canvassing, posting messages about their opposition to the move on tons of talk pages of users and related pages, while falsely accusing me of doing so because I tagged a couple people and asked for their opinions.
I plan on just leaving for a break now though, I’m not that passionate about this topic, but I feel like you’d likely know what to do in a way that I don’t in this situation. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 06:39, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah that is just beyond my ability to care. Being more involved with the move discussion will only make me more stressed. See you in a while while I try more seriously to take a break Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 08:07, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Horaisan Kofun[edit]

If you are looking for a new candidate then this Kofun might intrest you. It has an unknwon owner with two Emperors possibly attached to it. (Yes it has a ja:Wiki page =) ) - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:10, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Knowledgekid87 thank you, I really appreciate that. Horaisan Kofun [ja] (宝萊山古墳) looks really promising and notable, and it looks pretty cool too.
I think I will want to save it a bit since it is clearly notable and I might be able to if I get permission over it, use it as a proof of concept that I can reliably interpret Japanese, and potentially get restrictions lifted. But that would involve getting administrator approval to try it out. Like maybe I could get special permission to use Japanese sources just in that draft as a way to prove I could understand it. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 18:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much. =) I would start by looking at English sources as this Kofun has a mystery associated with it. It is clearly notable given the circumstances and would make for an interesting article. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:26, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh sorry... I'm actually talking about this one: Horaisan Kofun [ja]. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:27, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Knowledgekid87 thanks. English sources are always better, but it's so hard at times to find something when kanji can make things so ambiguous. That's a Zenpokoenfun so looks cool. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 18:30, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Knowledgekid87 could you help with verifying that I’m competent at using Japanese sources if this gets approved? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 19:30, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I will do my best, let me review the draft if/when you make it. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:57, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I’m not sure whether the incident yesterday will impact this but I do really look forward to doing this if so Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 02:06, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]


November 2023[edit]

Stop icon with clock
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for a violation of your community-imposed editing restriction. Specifically, you merged content from a declined draft into and existing article.. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:51, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Immanuelle. I understand that this is coming after a lengthy period that I imagine must have been stressful for you. It is very important that you adhere to the terms of your editing restriction. I hope you use this time to re-read it, as well as the ANI discussion that led to it. Please ask questions if the terms of the restriction are not clear to you. Unless compelled by some truly exceptional circumstances, you should not unilaterally be deciding that some particular rule-violating edit is fine. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Firefangledfeathers I appreciate your expression of empathy here. I'm not sure how to actually respond in this situation, but I did retool the draft for potentially submitting for the purpose of trying to get it approved for merge Draft:Content I want to merge into Mechanical and organic solidarity
I had completely forgotten about such a restriction existing as I have been very frequently instructed to merge draft content into mainspace. This one was a bit more self directed but ultimately still quite within the ballpark of what I had thought was acceptable
Should I resubmit the draft with the content a bit better refined when the block is over? The draft as it is right now contains the information I judge as most constructive to include on the main page. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 21:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A few thoughts:
  • I don't think most AFC reviewers will be familiar with your editing restriction, so I would not blame them for suggesting an option that is unavailable to you.
  • In general, and in the case of the organic solidarity content, you are welcome to post a link to your draft content at the relevant talk page of a relevant merge target. Interested editors there are permitted to copy over, with attribution, material from your drafts.
  • If you envision a draft, like the one that is now at Draft:Content I want to merge into Mechanical and organic solidarity, as mainly being a storehouse for mergeable content, I would not suggest submitting it for AFC review. I don't think the system is that flexible.
Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:14, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there's a restriction on Immanuelle just adding content to articles, right? So before creating a draft, maybe consider whether there's an article that the content you're creating could be added to, and try expanding that article first. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:21, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Elli, I share your understanding. There is no logged restriction that would prevent Immanuelle from adding content to existing articles, unless it's content that was
  1. previously in a declined draft
  2. or made using machine translation or AI assistance.
Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:25, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Elli@Firefangledfeathers so merge first then submit is what I’m getting from this. It’s a relatively strange set of requirements being imposed it seems, and I don’t quite see the motive for it. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 21:33, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No. Don't make a draft at all; just add the content you want to create to the existing article. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:35, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"merge first then submit" doesn't sound right to me, but I maybe misunderstanding you. What Elli says above is true for new content, not content in any draft you've written. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:35, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Immanuelle, the reason you had this restriction imposed was that you were adding under- or poorly referenced information to articles after drafts were declined for poor references. This meant both an increase of clean-up work for other editors as well as a higher likelihood that erroneous and poorly sourced information would sit around in mainspace with no one noticing it.
Regarding the "merge" outcome, it might make more sense if I explain what it looks like for a reviewer. When we think topic already exists on wikipedia, we have two options: "exists" and "merge". "Exists" means that a literal duplicate of the article already exists in mainspace. "Merge" is, well, merge. There's nothing in between for "this topic should be covered on this other article that's about a very similar topic." So many of your "merge" declines are really "why don't you try editing this other page?"
Also regarding "merge", I know I at least have frequently added a comment like "please don't literally merge exactly these words, but a condensed version would be fine". I don't see that as a violation of your editing restriction, personally (and I was there for that first ANI). As I see it, it's just putting the same or basically the same content into a mainspace article that is the problem. Since you've had trouble with paraphrasing before, I want to be clear that I'm talking about major condensing here - like writing a single sentence that says all the most important things from the declined draft. -- asilvering (talk) 03:38, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Draft:Makimuku Ishizuka Kofun[edit]

I don't think you should merge the content, since that would violate your restriction. The intention of the restriction probably wasn't to stop you from merging content if the AfC reviewer recommends you to do so (rather to stop you from using other methods of getting your content into mainspace, if the content was deemed inappropriate), but I can't change the restriction unilaterally, so you still have to abide by it. Galobtter (talk) 01:52, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Galobtter likewise do you consider my restriction to stop me from creating disambiguation pages? I think it only mentions articles and disambiguation pages are not articles, but I am not entirely sure. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 04:21, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think disambiguation pages should be fine, since they don't have any content. Galobtter (talk) 23:05, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Galobtter thank you. I will keep this in mind and archive it for citing later. However I will for any chinese character disambiguation titles still go through AFC since they are more controversial. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 23:47, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On the future of this project[edit]

This is my first draft I made since Draft:Okamisanzai Kofun after my ANI issue. This project is one that I intend on continuing with after I come back from my break. I copied all the relevant conversations here because my talk page cycles so fast with all the expiring drafts that any wikibreak will make me lose all these conversations.

I intend on trying to get approval to have my restrictions lifted in this one draft to prove my competence in the area. As the japanese article is already established as notable and well written, it will be a lot better for me this way.

Also when I'm at it I will want to probably go to the administrators noticeboard to ask about changing the draft merging restriction since I do not think it achieves its desired goal.

idk how reasonable this necessarily is, but I figure it is worth a shot.

For now though I am going to be taking a wikibreak that hopefully does not have me immediately coming back.

I am truly out of good drafts to submit. So my temptation to come back to fix some up to submit them when I can get a timely review is no longer really present.

See all of you in a while. I'm hope I can really relax and get better mental wellbeing, and I hope when I come back I can prove myself again to all of you. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 06:51, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Example of expressed trust to me[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bradv&oldid=1187916939 Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 07:14, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Translations[edit]

Please, can you help me with these translations from Japanese to English: ja:烏丸家 (Karasumaru family), ja:山本顧彌太 (Koyata Yamamoto), ja:亀井重清 (Shigekiyo Kamei), ja:片岡常春 (Tsuneharu Kataoka), ja:伊勢義盛 (Yoshimori Ise), ja:駿河次郎 (Jirō Suruga), ja:鷲尾義久 (Washio Yoshihisa), ja:富樫泰家 (Yasuie Togashi), ja:大社駅 (Taisha Station), ja:村田勝志 (Katsushi Murata), ja:藤井恒久 (Tsunehisa Fujii), ja:宮根誠司 (Seiji Miyane), ja:諸國沙代子 (Sayoko Shokoku), ja:世界一受けたい授業 (THE MOST USEFUL SCHOOL IN THE WORLD), ja:にっぽん丸 (Nippon Maru (1990)), ja:馬場元子 (Motoko Baba), ja:生ハムと焼うどん (Nama Ham & Yaki Udon), ja:いず (巡視船・2代) (Izu (PL 31)), ja:かめりあ丸 (Camellia Maru), ja:京都府警察 (Kyoto Prefectural Police), ja:柳川次郎 (Jirō Yanagawa), ja:花形敬 (Kei Hanagata), ja:小林楠扶 (Kusuo Kobayashi), ja:毎朝新聞 (Maiasa Shinbun), ja:田中六助 (Rokusuke Tanaka), ja:角田 久美子 (Kumiko Tsunoda), ja:安村直樹 (Naoki Yasumura), ja:三枝夕夏 (Yūka Saegusa), ja:少年ケニヤ (Shōnen Kenya), ja:チャンピオン太 (Champion Futoshi), ja:ジャイアント台風 (Giant Typhoon), ja:引田有美 (Yumi Hikita), ja:松岡巌鉄 (Gantetsu Matsuoka), ja:鈴木理子 (ホリプロ) (Riko Suzuki), ja:谷内里早 (Risa Taniuchi), ja:尾崎仁彦 (Kimihiko Ozaki), ja:アーサ米夏 (Aasa Maika), ja:吉村道明 (Michiaki Yoshimura), ja:沖識名 (Shikina Oki), ja:芳の里淳三 (Junzō Yoshinosato), ja:篠原光 (Hikaru Shinohara), ja:沖野ヨーコ (漫画家) (Yōko Okino), ja:徳住有香 (Yuka Tokuzumi), ja:とみながまり (Mari Tominaga), ja:堀内博之 (Hiroyuki Horiuchi), ja:永野椎菜 (Shiina Nagano), ja:諏訪道彦 (Michihiko Suwa), ja:阿部ゆたか (Yutaka Abe), ja:渡部陽一 (Yōichi Watanabe), ja:吉岡昌仁 (Masahito Yoshioka), Hokkaido Otaru Fisheries High School (ja:北海道小樽水産高等学校), Forestry Agency (ja:林野庁), Kotanbetsu (ja:古丹別駅), Onishika (ja:鬼鹿村), Brown Bear Storm (ja:羆嵐), Japan Hunting Friends Association (ja:大日本猟友会), Hokkaido Government Police Department (ja:北海道庁警察部), Haboro Police Station (ja:羽幌警察署), 28th Infantry Regiment (Japan) (ja:歩兵第28連隊), Japan Action Enterprise (ja:ジャパンアクションエンタープライズ), Kaoru Takagi (ja:高木薫), Hokkaido Wine (ja:北海道ワイン), ja:おらが村 (Oraga Village), ja:新・おらが村 (New Oraga Village), ja:マタギ (漫画) (Matagi (manga)), ja:かつみ (Katsumi (manga)), ja:ニッポン博物誌 (Nippon Natural History), ja:ふるさと (漫画) (Hometown (manga)), ja:激濤 Magnitude 7.7 (Gekito Magnitude 7.7), ja:村松美香 (Mika Muramatsu). Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.248.236.86 (talk) 08:53, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I'd be happy to look at them, but I am still under editing restrictions on this. This is certainly a wide variety of topics. How did you select them? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 08:58, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
ja:烏丸家 (Karasumaru family) is probably the one I'd feel most comfortable with in terms of my own ability, and I could especially help with the family tree in it. ja:山本顧彌太 (Koyata Yamamoto) is in the area where even though I believe he is notable, the Japanese article does not have enough sources to pass on English wikipedia. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 09:04, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I plan on going to bed soon. Please feel free to message me tomorrow or on other days Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 09:07, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I wanted to do it myself, but I'm too busy with work until February. Then, when you'll have time, can you help me? Thank you very much. 79.21.233.65 (talk) 10:09, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Probably not by February. I have editing restricitions which would keep me from doing any translations in the medium term. But I'll definitely look at these topics if they get lifted Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 23:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I wait good news. 95.239.125.51 (talk) 08:06, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]