Draft talk:Clarence Erasmus Shepard

Deleted draft?

User:Doncram noted that there was a Draft:Clarenxe E. Shepard but I can't find it? FloridaArmy (talk) 12:32, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

• There is Draft:Clarence Erasmus Shepard (which this is a Talk page of), but no Draft:Clarence E. Shepard (and clicking on its redlink shows that wasn't created and deleted). --Doncram (talk) 12:46, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Development

User:FloridaArmy, there is also: *Mount Barbara, 100 Mt. Barbara Salina, Kansas [see Draft:Mount Barbara ]now in article

Posting here to avoid edit conflict with you. --Doncram (talk) 12:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

start separate article now covering Charles E. Shepard?

Isn't it very confusing?:

• Clarence Erasmus Shepard (1869-1949), American architect based in Kansas City with initials C.E.S.
• Charles E. Shepard (1868-1932), also an American architect based in Kansas City, at the same time, with initials C.E.S.

Charles E. Shapard was partner with Wiser and with Farrar. and the three partnered together. User:FloridaArmy, how about your starting an article at Shepard, Farrar & Wiser, to cover works by all three separately or in partnerships, to include at least the following NRHP-listed works? --Doncram (talk) 14:26, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Works of Charles Shepard alone or in partnership with Wiser and/or Farrar (from version of NRIS database covering places NRHP-listed before mid-2013):

• Central Dairy Building, 1104-1106 East Broadway Columbia, MO Shepard and Wiser
• Central Presbyterian Church, 1100 Harrison St. Amarillo, TX Shepard & Wiser
• Dougherty Auditorium, 203 W. Main St. Richmond, MO Shepard & Farrar
• Eldridge House Hotel, Seventh and Massachusetts Lawrence, KS Shepard & Wiser
• Farmers National Bank (Stafford, Kansas), 100 N. Main Stafford, KS Shepard, Charles E.
• Fitzgibbon Hospital, 868 S. Brunswick Ave. Marshall, MO Shepard & Wiser
• One or more works in Hanover Heights Neighborhood Historic District, Roughly bounded by Olathe Blvd., Frances St., 43rd Ave., and State Line Rd. Kansas City, KS Shepard,Charles
• Holland Building, 205 Park Central East Springfield, MO Shepard, Farrar and Wiser Architects
• Charles S. Keith House, 1214 W. 55th ST. Kansas City, MO Shepard, Farrar & Wiser
• Nora E. Larabee Memorial Library, 108 N. Union St. Stafford, KS Shepard, Charles E.
• Lowe and Campbell Sporting Goods Building, 1509-13 Baltimore Ave. Kansas City, MO Shepard & Wiser
• Monterey Place, 1552 Monterey Pl. Mobile, AL Shepard,Charles M.
• George J. Myers House, 633 E. Armour Blvd. Kansas City, MO Shepard & Farrar
• President Hotel (Kansas City, Missouri) aka "Hotel President", 1327-1335 Baltimore Ave. Kansas City, MO Shepard & Wiser
• William D. Repp House, 3500 Charlotte St. Kansas City, MO Shepard & Farrar
• Richards and Conover Hardware Company Building, 200 W. 5th St. Kansas City, MO Shepard & Farrar
• Sophian Plaza, 1500 S. Frisco Ave., W. Tulsa, OK Shepard and Wiser architects
• Sophian Plaza, 4618 Warwick Blvd. Kansas City, MO Shepard,Charles E.
• One or more works in Wholesale District (Boundary Increase), 701 Broadway & 330 W. 8th St. Kansas City, MO Shepard & Farrar

Works of Wiser, without Shepard, to be included also (from version of NRIS database covering places NRHP-listed before mid-2013):

• Hotel Dale, 206 W. 8th St. Coffeyville, KS Wiser, A.C.
• Sophian Plaza, 4618 Warwick Blvd. Kansas City, MO Wiser,Alfred C. (one of these must be an error in name, in NRIS)
• Waltower Building, 823 Walnut St. Kansas City, MO Wiser, Albert G. (one of these must be an error in name, in NRIS)

In NRIS database covering NRHP-listed before mid-2013, there are no works by Farrar without either Shepard or Wiser.

Unclear whether Clarence or Charles:

• One or more works in Santa Fe Place Historic District, Roughly bounded by Twenty-seventh St., Indiana Ave., Thirtieth St., and Prospect Ave. Kansas City, MO Shepard,C.E. [ To be answered by NRHP doc, a copy available at NARA, however like some other docs at NARA it takes a long time to download. I might or might not resolve this one soon. --Doncram

It took forever, i think more than 30 minutes to download. Direct url which might work to get NRHP document is this. NRHP doc covers 3 buildings designed by Charles Shepard and/or Shepard & Farrar, none by Clarence. --Doncram (talk) 15:30, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Unclear whether this is a C. Shepard or not:

• Crisp Building, 1970 Main St. Sarasota, FL Clas & Shepard  ?? NO that was a John S. Shepherd per [1].
• Tripoli Temple, 3000 W. Wisconsin Ave. Milwaukee, WI Clas,Shepard & Clas NO
• Westfield Center Historic District, 0-362 Elm, 2-86 Broad, 0-83 Court, 2-24 Main, 0-71 N. Elm, Chestnut, W. Silver & Union Sts. Westfield, MA Shepard,C;Holton,A.;Harding,M.,Reid

--Doncram (talk) 14:15, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

User:Doncram Zoinks! Thanks for the pointer. Confusing indeed. Will see if I can sort out according to the guidelines you've laid out. Thanks. FloridaArmy (talk) 14:20, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Great, have fun. Ping me from the new draft article, whenever, and I will try to add. BTw Charles E. Shepard at Findagrave is: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/92690685/charles-e-shepard . --Doncram (talk) 15:07, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Another source is this at sophianplazakc.com. --Doncram (talk) 01:39, 18 September 2022 (UTC)