Category talk:National Association of Base Ball Players teams

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Jersey City[edit]

The Jersey City Skeeters should probably be cut from the category. I have cut one claim in that article. See Talk:Jersey City Skeeters. The author is gone more than two years. --P64 (talk) 01:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NAPBBP members[edit]

My preface to the category says, Many members of the subsequent professional NA are in this category although their articles focus on those "major league" seasons.

Now I have validated that by cat-ing the appropriate NAPBBP club pages here. Here are the 14 both-association members by year they joined the pro NA.

  • 1871 - all NAPBBP members except Boston (8)
  • 1872 - Atlantics, Eckfords, Mansfields, Nationals (4)
  • 1873 - Marylands, Resolutes (2)

The other 10 to 12 NAPBBP members were younger; at least, Marshall Wright does not show them as NABBP members. All of these 14 but the Kekiongas (1871), Mansfields, and Resolutes were professional members of the NABBP in 1870 if not also 1869.

Actually I have not put Chicago Cubs in this category, but the disambiguation Chicago White Stockings in its place. First, the Cubs page is protected. Second, this category is a subcategory of Category:Defunct baseball teams, which may cause a problem putting the Cubs here even if permitted. --P64 (talk) 02:33, 17 February 2009 (UTC) --slightly revised 2010-06-24[reply]

professional NABBP members[edit]

Seventeen clubs were professional members of the NABBP for 1869 or 1870, twelve and fifteen by year. Twelve are in this category. Here are the five missing pro teams named in the fashion of Category: NABBP players by team.

  • 1869 - New Jersey Irvingtons, Philadelphia Keystones (NABBP) (2)
  • 1870 - Boston Tri-Mountains, Morrisania Unions, Portsmouth Riversides (3)

Ten clubs were professional members during both season and all of them are represented by articles in the category. Probably there are no pages for these five clubs but I haven't checked well. --P64 (talk) 03:28, 17 February 2009 (UTC) --slightly revised 2010-06-24[reply]

Coverage[edit]

Today there are 19 teams in the category. They include 12 of 14 clubs who were members of both associations, all except the Mansfields and Marylands (see NAPBBP members, above). They include 12 of 17 pro clubs from 1869–1870 (see pro NABBP members, above). That accounts for 13 because the overlap of the 12 and 12 is only 11 with Cincinnati before 1870/71; Fort Wayne after.

The other 6 of 19 now listed were strictly amateur or professional after 1875/76: Brooklyn Enterprise, Jersey City (see above), Milwaukee, the Knickerbockers, and two from Newark.

I have slightly revised the two preceding sections in order to fit this summary of Coverage. --P64 (talk) 15:01, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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