Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of Shetland islands/archive1

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The list was kept by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:28, 17 October 2021 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of Shetland islands[edit]

Featured list removal candidates/List of Shetland islands/archive1

Notified: User talk:Ben MacDui, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scottish Islands, [2][3]

I am nominating this featured article for review because there seem to be a number of issues such as spelling errors, duplicates and places that don't appear to exist. I posted a comment at Talk:List of Shetland islands#Large number of errors in June 2018 which was replied to since I was using the list to create Commons categories for the islands. A number of fixes were made by me and Ben but I didn't remove those I couldn't find on the OS since I wasn't sure if they had a different language name like many Outer Hebrides islands do but most Shetland islands appear to just use the English name. I'm concerned many more errors exist since as noted I didn't remove those that I couldn't find. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:04, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Crouch, Swale: and @WP:FAR coordinators: - This is a featured list, so it belongs at WP:FLR. Hog Farm _Talk 17:38, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Hog Farm: Shall I just nominate it at Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates and remove this page from Wikipedia:Featured article review? Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:43, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that ought to be fine (although it turns out it's actually WP:FLCR, as FLR is revision flagging. Recommend moving this page to Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of Shetland islands/archive1, as well. Hog Farm _Talk 18:35, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done, I think I've fixed the template. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:14, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the sources are also dubious. Shetlopedia appears to be a wiki, and I'm not convinced that Orkneyjar is particularly reliable. There's also some uncited text. Hog Farm _Talk 23:30, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for a slow reply - I am not very active these days. Quick overview of issues:

There are names that are duplicated on the map and IRL so I'll need some guidance as to which ones you think are erroneous.
'Horns of the Roc' (referred to on the articles's talk page) is simply a typo. Having taken out my magnifying glass I see it is 'Horns of the Roe' underneath Rulkies Hill on the west coast near Grimister.
- I have had a long look at Yell. Arguably one or two entries are too small to list but I think better to have a few too many than miss one of substance. ‘Brough’ is = https://canmore.org.uk/site/1240/yell-the-brough in the NW. There is also an islet with a Broch by the Sound of Brough at Holm of Copister in the south but the OS do not name it and I don’t see it on Canmore. In short that section looks OK to me. Ben Mac Dui 17:20, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I looked at another at random - Bressay. There could be all sorts of dialogue about details but for the purposes of this exercise everything seems in order. This took about 20 minutes. I am afraid I don't have time to look at them all in this way! Ben Mac Dui 13:18, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If there are others you couldn't find I'll need a list. More I think than any other Scottish archipelago there are issues of definition. Shetland has lots of tiny little stacks and the distinction between a genuine island and storm-washed rock is not always clear from the maps.
Shetlopedia was used a bit long ago but yes, it is not a reliable source. Very easily fixed.
- Done.
I don't have any problem with Orkneyjar myself. It is not an academic publication but then, neither are a lot of our sources and this is a part of the world in which 'local coverage' is sometimes all there is of various issues. I have never found it to be in error. Like Shetlopedia this is used once.
- Added a ref from scotlandsplaces.gov.uk
I will have a quick look for unsourced text - any hints would be gratefully received.
- Added a couple of citations.

Ben Mac Dui 10:37, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have now been round 80% of the 'Surrounding Islands' section and corrected a few typos. There are also a couple of names I want to check - it can be hard to tell from the OS what feature is being named sometimes. 'Big-nev Geo' for example, sounds like the embayment and it is possible the islet is actually 'Big Nev'. Ben Mac Dui 08:27, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Uyea, Northmavine: Big-nev Geo – is indeed the bay and Big Nev, or ‘Big Niv’ the islet. Little Nev is close by. See here.
Housensellar is a ‘bay’ according to the OS (although clearly a cove). Assuming so there is an unnamed islet offshore.
Hesti Geo on Foula does not sound like an island, although again there is an apparently unnamed islet offshore.
Swarbacks Minn & Olna Firth: My old notes suggest that Skult or Skults might be the unnamed island between Vementry and Ward of Hostigates but I can’t find any concrete evidence of this.
All the above amended. Ben Mac Dui 12:25, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- Looking into a few more tweaks, but without further input I don't think there's much more I can do. There may well be for instance, "places that don't appear to exist" but I can hardly confirm or refute this without knowing which places might be involved. Ben Mac Dui 15:15, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, I'm going to go ahead and close the nomination as kept. The main issue seems to have been resolved as much as is possible, and with no other calls for delisting or any movement for a month, I think we can consider this as resolved. --Pres N 14:49, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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