Talk:Grease trucks/Archive 1

The Name

When did they get the name Gease Trucks? My dad went to Rutgers in the late 60s/early 70s. He says the trucks were there, but they were called the "Roach Coach" at the time.

I would just like to point out the fact that the Grease Truck Trend has grown. I know of two different Fat Sandwich serving shop chains going on outside of Rutgers. One is the Fat Sandwich Company here in Norman, Oklahoma on Campus Corner. And there is a shop called Are You Hungry in West Virginia near the West Virginia campus.

I think the grease trucks are innovative and can grow larger. This would warrent its own category. Soonerspence (talk) 01:51, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

This page was already deleted on March 4, 2006 for lack of notability:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grease Trucks

It seems that soon after the deletion, on March 10th, this page was recreated (usually this is ground for speedy deletion). I have put a merge tag on the top of the article and think that this should be trimmed and put into a small part of the main Rutgers article. It alone is not notable enough to warrant an article. I'd merge it myself but I haven't been that big of a contributor to the main article so I think someone else might want to do it. Either way, if it isn't merged within a reasonable amount of time I'll be forced to put this up for afd again and considering that it is recreated material and does not seem to meet Wikipedia's notability critera it will most likely not succeed.--Jersey Devil 01:25, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

• It has no place in the Rutgers article. It is about as notable as the Fuck Truck up at Harvard, and has been covered by several websites/newspapers/magazines, including Maxim which named the Fat Darrell as the best sandwich in the country or the world or something. —ExplorerCDT 16:36, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

• • It's impossible that this article was created on March 10th because I created it from a redirect on 25 August 2006. I didn't even know there was a previous article. Whatever the case I'm sure this article is more detailed and better written than the previous since I added copious amounts of citations proving its notability. The previous deletion was due to lack of research since Grease trucks are very notable in New Jersey. Also I removed the merge tag because AfD tag makes merging obsolete. If article passes then it has proved itself notable. If it fails then there is no need for a merge. Valoem ^talk 19:01, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - The Grease Trucks are a staple of the Rutgers campus. This article is not about a single truck on a single corner, it's about a specific group of trucks that cluster together. They are notable especially in light of the Fat Darrell/Maxim Magazine exposure. The history log of this article backs up Valoem's claim that this incarnation of the article was only created on 8/25/06 not March, and therefore should not be speedy deleted. Wl219 12:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

• I would suggest that in order to make the Grease Trucks even more notable, references to 2005 Daily Targum articles about the complaints of harassment by female students should be added. Wl219 12:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

• This should not be deleted. The Grease Trucks are quite notable and have had several articles in magazines and newspapers as well as has been featured on a few shows on The Food Network. AntiG

• I must agree, if restaurants can have pages, or college traditions or features, the "Grease Trucks" are their own restaurant and legend, and a very interesting part of Rutgers history. They are absolutely famous in central NJ and a true part of the Rutgers experience.

move?

Is there any stuff out there to indicate that "grease trucks" is a generic term? (I suspect it is.) Would it be appropriate to move this to Grease Trucks (Rutgers University)? Wl219 20:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

• I'm not sure about the existence of other "grease truck"-type vendors, but they are the major one AFAIK. In addition, the term seems based on the type of food (unhealthy) as much as being served out the side of a vehicle - there's no generic for the vehicle (no such category specified in Ice cream van) or the combination AFAICT. That said, I'd like to disagree with the suggestion to fold them under Rutgers. As previously stated by another editor, they are not limited to the Rutgers community, and have no official affiliation with Rutgers (they pay Rutgers rent and abide by certain regulations in order to be located where they are). If a change becomes necessary, I'd suggest using Grease Trucks (New Brunswick, NJ) instead. MJKazin 20:14, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I cannot find a citing article, but when I was introduced to the grease trucks, there were a few reasons given to me as to why it could be spelled "Greece trucks". (1) They serve "Greek" food such as grape leaves, gyros, and souvlaki. (2) Owners are Greek. This is a stretch, as the owners I spoke to tended to be Palestinian or Egyptian. However, they are still Mediterranean, so I'll let it slide. (3) They are close to several fraternities, also known as "Greek" life. The name which claims two homonyms seems to be unique. Thus, it is inappropriate to call it a generic term without evidence that such food trucks in other places have these same traits in general. --FearlessRahul 17:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

They are known around the world as the Rutgers Grease Trucks. I think the whole subject is easily solved by calling the page The Rutgers Grease Trucks.

• Nope. I spent 4 years at Rutgers and never heard them referred to as the "Rutgers Grease Trucks". They've always been just the "Grease Trucks". An obvious lesser-known name, "Rutgers Grease Trucks" should redirect here just in case. —ExplorerCDT 17:11, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
• Well of course you didn't call them the Rutgers Grease Trucks because you went to Rutgers where the trucks were. If you lived anywhere else outside of New Brunswick (even the townsfolks called them simply the Grease Trucks) you called them the Rutgers Grease Trucks. As I said, they are world famous as the Rutgers Grease Trucks.
  • I also grew up in New Jersey and New York and still they were never known as the "Rutgers Grease Trucks". Just the "Grease Trucks". And sign your comments or get a user account and stop being anonymous. Otherwise your opinions don't matter. —ExplorerCDT 22:12, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
    • It's not exactly like he's got a conflict of interest and is being paid to call them Grease Trucks. 66.215.20.28 (talk) 17:41, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Veggie Indian

Fat Veggie Indian is not the correct name of the sandwich. The proper name is simply Veggie Indian. Furthermore some sandwiches are clearly missing like the Veggie Brian. A recent addition to actual list (not the advertisements in the windows) is the Veggie Greeny. Lastly if anyone knows the Fat Sandwich challenge, please state it in the article. I believe it something like eating 5 sandwiches in one period in order for you to create your own fat sandwich and have it served at all the trucks. -heresmyworld

What about Stuff yer Face?

That's the name of a restaurant on Easton Ave. in New Brunswick. There used to be one of those in East Brunswick as well, but it got replaced by something else. And that reminds me of Old Man Rafferty's, also a New Brunswick restaurant.... and Timulty's Pub. all of those are NB landmarks. 165.230.46.151 (talk) 02:46, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:FOOD Tagging

This article talk page was automatically added with {{WikiProject Food and drink}} banner as it falls under Category:Restaurants or one of its subcategories. If you find this addition an error, Kindly undo the changes and update the inappropriate categories if needed. You can find the related request for tagging here -- TinucherianBot (talk) 09:39, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

List of Sandwiches

This article used to include a list of Fat Sandwiches. That should be brought back along with descriptions or links to stubs listing the ingredients. Alternatively, the list of Fat Sandwiches could be added to the Fat Sandwich article.

Note WP standards, that include "Wikipedia is not a list." Examples are fine but an exhaustive list which could never be uniform or complete is impractical and unnecessary.Njsustain (talk) 15:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

It's [not] Greece Trucks!

The sign on the truck says "Greece Truck." Any Rutgers student can confirm this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.52.215.153 (talk) 06:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

There are many, many misspellings on the food trucks' signs. This is just one of them. The word has referred to cooking grease since the term was coined.Njsustain (talk) 15:27, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Possible merger with Fat Sandwiches article

As there is a proposed deletion (or merger with this article) of the "Fat Sandwiches" article, I'm copying the text of the article here for convenience, or just in case:

• A Fat Sandwich is a large submarine-type sandwich filled with a combination of various foods such as burgers, French fries (in the sandwich), cheesesteak, mozzarella sticks, chicken fingers, pork roll, marinara sauce, falafel, gyro meat, fried eggs, ketchup, mayonnaise, onions, etc.

• The first Fat Sandwich was the "Fat Cat," created in New Brunswick, NJ, in the 1970s, and consisited of two cheeseburgers, french fries, lettuce, tomato, mayonnaise, and ketchup. In the 1980s, the Fat Cat became a popular item at the "Grease Trucks," a group of truck-based food vendors at Rutgers University's College Avenue Campus. The three other Fat sandwiches sold during the early history of the Grease Trucks were the "Fat Moon" (chicken fingers, bacon, egg, french fries, lettuce, tomato, mayonnaise and ketchup), "Fat Koko" (pizza steak, french fries, mozzarella sticks), and "Fat Sam" (cheese steak, grilled chicken, french fries, lettuce, tomato, mayonnaise, and ketchup).

• These inexpensive sandwiches (usually only $1 more than a regular hamburger) with the "sides" included within steadily rose in popularity, but the "Fat Cat" would remain the #1 seller until 1997, when a student named Darrell W. Butler created the "Fat Darrell," consisting of chicken fingers, mozzarella sticks, French fries, and marinara sauce. Butler said to USA Today, "Like the typical college student, I was pretty much broke. I had been craving chicken fingers, mozzarella sticks and French fries all week long but I knew that I didn't have enough money to buy all three. I talked the guy behind the counter into putting them all onto a piece of bread for me. I guess it sounded like a good idea because the next 10 or so people all asked for the same thing." Since the creation of the "Fat Darrell," more than twenty other Fat Sandwich combinations have been composed. Seemingly every combination of these ingredients are available at the Grease Trucks in variously named "fat" sandwiches, including multiple vegetarian options. Fat sandwiches have become available in many short-order eateries and pizza places in and around New Brunswick.

• Sandwiches with colorful names such as the "Fat Balls," "Fat Dyke," "Fat Fucking Drunk," "Fat Philipino" [sic], "Fat Bastard," and "Fat Bitch" were deemed offensive by Rutgers, and in 2005 the vendors agreed to change the names on the posted menus to maintain their contracts to sell food on Rutgers property. Several of these names are still in use at nearby restaurants.

• With nationwide media recognition, such as in Maxim magazine in 2004, fat sandwich vendors are popping up on various college campuses around the country.

• -- External links --

• And . . . Rutgers gets stuffed again, By GREG AUMAN, St Petersburg Times, Published November 4, 2005

• [Category:Sandwiches] [Category:American sandwiches]