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Cyprus

The article states that Cyprus is currently in transition, and will have its transition completed by mid-July 2011. Yet, the map has Cyprus colored as gray. Shouldn't Cyprus be colored yellow for the time being, and then red once its transition has completed in about a month? Skyduster (talk) 05:21, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Peru

Peru must be added with green, because they chose ISDB-T for their transmitions, but they'll only start them in 2011. Fasouzafreitas (talk) 14:10, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Latvia

Please change to "Transition completed for full power stations, not yet completed for low power stations". In 1st June, 2010 switch to "Transition completed, all analog signals terminated".Info here and here ---- Digital1 (talk) 15:38, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey, from June 1st, 2010 all analogue signals in Latvia is terminated, so please correct this map!!! ---- Digital1 (talk) 21:32, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Please could you mark the Orkney and Shetland islands in Scotland as completed the digital switchover? Also, the John O' Groats northern part of Scotland and one of the western islands needs marking in red as well please. The reason being is because it shows the switchover is complete in the areas mentioned on this map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UK_digital_switchover.svg

Thankyou.

--Jaxboy32 (talk) 15:36, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Thailand

Thailand is not yet starting the digital, but will start in 2011-2012 and will finish in 2015. Please change from gray to green.--182.52.5.108 (talk) 14:21, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Anti-DPRK propaganda bias

And where exactly was the information retrieved that the Dear Comrade's republic is not intending to transition to digital? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.96.128.43 (talk) 13:54, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

I can totally see North Korea not transitioning, but you're right that we shouldn't assume. We should either color NK gray for "no data available", or cite a credible source for giving NK any color other than gray. Skyduster (talk) 05:18, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Northern part of France has completed the analogue switchoff.

The northern part of France has now completed the analogue switchoff, so the northern part of France should be marked in red accordingly.

--Jaxboy32 (talk) 21:16, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Why should France be allowed to change colour piece by piece? Surely, the readability of the map relies on the familiar outline shapes of countries being preserved through being rendered in one colour. If countries change colour a few pixels at a time, as Britain is doing for a reason that is not explained, then the map will become very difficult to read. Hawthornesque (talk) 12:24, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Analogue terrestrial television has ceased broadcasting in Israel

Please mark Israel in red, as it has completed it's ASO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.12.90.123 (talk) 22:13, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Cuba can be coloured in blue - they will never switch

On the map, North Korea is shown in blue as not intending to switch to digital. We can also include Cuba as well. As long as the country remains communist they will never see digital TV. Switching their population of 10+ million over to digital would be almost impossible. Putting the lack of monetary resources aside, there are no electronics companies even established in Cuba - everything is brought into the country on the grey market (therefore without warranties or local support). As a result, there is no way for the government to roll out digital TV in people's homes without the private sector (STB manufacturers) involved. Davez621 (talk) 00:56, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

That's a thoughtful analysis, but the truth is, we don't know for sure. According to DVB itself, Cuba is considering a transition. The main article provides this citation: DVB in Cuba. Whether or not this will actually materialize, is not up to Wikipedia to assume or decide. If you can provide either acknowledgement from Cuban authorities that the transition will certainly not be pursued or cite a credible source on the impossibility of a Cuban digital transition, then great. Otherwise "not yet started the digital transition" [green color] is the most fitting description for Cuba's status on the matter. Skyduster (talk) 05:14, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Laos

Laos should be removed to gray because the government announced that the transition is a rumor.--180.214.209.210 (talk) 09:21, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Can you provide a reliable source for this? EpicWikipedian (talk) 10:31, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Croatia

Croatia finished switch-off in 2010, so please turn it red.--DujeTrogir (talk) 18:48, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Canada

Canada has switched off full power signals so Canada must turn orange. Serbia will shut off analog television on April 4th and Japan on March 31, so you must turn Japan and Serbia red on 1 April 2012. J4lambert (talk) 01:56, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Before any other countries turn orange, would it not be a good idea to establish some rules for the use of orange? Orange seems to have been created specifically for the United States of America and it currently seems to mean "All analog television transmitters that are deemed to be high power according to the licensing laws in the USA have been turned off". In order to apply the orange colour to any other country, there needs to be an accepted definition of "high power" and "low power" than can be applied to other countries, especially those that do not have a distinct licensing class for "low power" transmitters. Many small island nations may not have any "high power" transmitters according to the USA definition and should already be coloured orange. Hawthornesque (talk) 08:52, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

But that would be all they need, due to the small radius of their island. Wouldn't it be unfair to keep those countries permanently orange for them not wanting to waste power transmitting to fish? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 18:19, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

You may have slightly missed my point. I am not trying to turn Nauru orange. I was trying to stop Canada turning orange. The orange colour seems to be a special concession to the USA. No other country has been given their own "job half done" colour. Unless rules are published for the use of the orange colour coding that could be applied to other countries, this just reinforces the above interpretation. Hawthornesque (talk) 02:56, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Canada should indeed turn orange, since in Canada (where I live) there are still many low-power analogue stations like CBC that are still broadcasting under certain restrictions created by the government. However, since April, a new law shut down some of the higher-power analogue stations left, so there are only few really low-power stations left across the country, at a point where I can't receive a colour analogue station. (The signal is so distorted that I cannot receive the colours.)Wiki-asd-97 (talk) 14:07, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Another missed point, I fear. I am not singling out Canada by denying you the use of the colour orange. I am making a case against the use of the orange colour on the map. Unless a condition is published for the use of orange and any country that satisfies that condition is changed to orange then no country should be coloured orange. My point is that orange was seemingly created because your neighbours (in their case, neighbors) in the USA did not want to remain coloured yellow until they had completely ceased analogue television transmissions. The biggest problem that I see with the special colour for the USA is that it is only defined in terms of US broadcasting regulations. Even if we are told the ERP limit for low-power TV transmitters in the USA, what makes that particular power limit significant in any other country? If other countries give transmitters with a power less than 10 kilowatts a special name, do they get coloured orange when there are no more analogue transmitters with a power less than 10 kilowatts? Hawthornesque (talk) 13:09, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Orange should be defined as low-power for that country, as in not important, as in no use having a non-DTV capable set if using it to watch TV. That's the most useful definition of orange. For Canada, a college station that struggles to be recieved outside the campus is low power. Maybe Nauru never had low power stations by that standard. Cause there's a big difference between stations with a range best measured in meters and ones that actually cover, you know, a metropolitan area. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 21:51, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I disagree. I believe that only having analogue transmitters of such low power that their range is measured in metres should be within the definition of red, not of orange. I am against the use of orange, due to the lack of a clear definition. Hawthornesque (talk) 01:48, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Maybe hundreds of meters is more informative. But even those will not be suffered by the US FCC after 2014, so switchover is not yet complete. Then again, you can't really say that for practical TV-using purposes it isn't complete. This year I ran the box and found 30 channels, not one of which was analog. (Though before I could get analog channel 6, which played such greats as "the Russian electrodance and test pattern show" and "the silent film to satisfy the requirement that they actually show something while the independent rock band plays show" (because, apparently, they don't have video cameras)) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 10:13, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

I have no doubt, but it still isn't analogue switched off. You could argue that the UK should have been turned orange when say 70% of regions had been switched off. I'm not saying Canada shouldn't be orange, I'm just saying that I think it's no coincidence that only one country currently is — it was tailor-made for the US-situation, and it should be carefully examined whether that was a correct decision, before adding any other countries to the category. Nearly every country is in some stage of switch-off. Why shouldn't they all get their own too, reflecting where they are? Because it would be a mess. Seems to be more about saving face for the US than anything else (not to say that it's embarrassing — any country that large still having some analogue transmitters is not surprising) but it directly contradicts the summary "off vs. on" idea the map is supposed to convey. - Estoy Aquí (talk) 00:25, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Liechtenstein terminated analog transmitters along with switzerland. San Marino completed switchover at 2 December 2010. vatican hadn't ever any tv station so it switched to digital tv with italy. gibraltar currently is in progress to shut down analog transmitters at 31 december 2012. czech republic and republic of china shut down analog transmitters at 30 june 2012

Ukraine and Belarus

Ukraine and Belarus should be colored yellow, someone correct it please. A.h. king • Talk to me! 12:30, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Laos and Cambodia

These countries should be green, not yellow.--110.49.232.21 (talk) 04:56, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

India yellow-coloured

I read in the article that the transition to digital in India already has started in October 2012, so the colour of India has to be yellow. --OPolkruikenz (talk) 12:46, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Indonesia, by the way, also begun already its transition, which is stated somewhere in this article from September 2012: --OPolkruikenz (talk) 13:21, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Premature red in South Africa

Whoever changed South Africa to be red needs to consult and understand the available references. Far from having completed a transition to digital terrestrial television broadcasting, South Africa has barely started its roll-out of digital television. See http://www.godigitalsa.co.za/godigitalsa/coveragemap for a realistic picture of the situation - only a small number of test transmissions. Since that map was published, there has been a rethink of the roll-out, with a probable change from DVB-T to DVB-T2 and much debate about the use of encryption in set-top boxes. See http://www.digitaltvnews.net/content/?p=23340 for the announcement of the restart of the roll-out.

Is there any evidence anywhere that Namibia and Zimbabwe have progressed beyond a start-up of digital television services in a small number of areas? Hawthornesque (talk) 04:01, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Agreed, South Africa still hasn't transitioned and it is being delayed again. See http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadcasting/127244-sa-getting-ready-to-miss-digital-tv-deadline.html Unklphil (talk) 05:57, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Update Map

Iceland (novembre 2014) Algeria (novembre 2014)

--Jai51 (talk) 20:25, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Brazil switchoff update

On December 5, 2018, analog television signals in most of the major cities of Brazil will have switched off. At that time, Brazil's color would need to be switched from yellow to orange. `J4lambert (talk) 18:50, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

• On December 5, 2018, the color of Brazil will need to be switched from yellow to orange. Please note that. J4lambert (talk) 21:54, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Serbia

Serbia switched off analog signals, make it red. Guy9374isback2 (talk) 11:06, 7 June 2015 (UTC)