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Malta[edit]

where is Malta? i know it is small but still it should be depicted - the map as it is shows 26 members and not 27 so it is not correct!--Melitikus (talk) 12:34, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Malta is there actually, sharing a deposition date with Hungary. It got distorted when I was making the map. Here's a new one Urpunkt (talk) 16:56, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Time scale[edit]

The addition of the actual dates of ratification is a great addition to the map. However, I think it raises another question. I wonder if it wouldn't be more interesting to have a constant time step of evolution (15 days ? 1 month ?) rather than an update every time a state member ratified the treaty. I think it would better capture the ratification process, with its variable pace. Well, this is just an idea. What do you think of it ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cochonfou (talk • contribs) 12:16, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you calculate the time between the dates, and give me the converted time intervals you want in seconds, which should have a mean time of about 1.5 seconds, I'll change them.Urpunkt (talk) 14:13, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

nice idea, i would put them all in days, rather than days and months - as the flash is quite fast one would not have much time to analyse such 'long' data but the increase in the number of days is more easy to follow!--Melitikus (talk) 14:51, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just clarifying my last post- the point is a lot of empty frames without anything happening is a bit of a waste. Better to do it with frame delay. Urpunkt (talk) 20:15, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here is what I got. A conversion factor of 0.1 second for 1 day gives a median time between frames of 1.45 seconds (mean: 2.7 seconds). However, depending on your feeling, you may or may not want to cap the time between Sweden and Germany (289 days). Cochonfou (talk) 07:07, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Country	Date	Days	Seconds
Hungary - Malta	06/02/08	0	0
France	14/02/08	8	0,8
Romania	11/03/08	26	2,6
Slovenia	24/04/08	44	4,4
Bulgaria	28/04/08	4	0,4
Austria	13/05/08	15	1,5
Denmark	29/05/08	16	1,6
Latvia	16/06/08	18	1,8
Portugal	17/06/08	1	0,1
Slovakia	24/06/08	7	0,7
United Kingdom	16/07/08	22	2,2
Luxembourg	21/07/08	5	0,5
Italy	08/08/08	18	1,8
Greece	12/08/08	4	0,4
Cyprus - Lithuania	26/08/08	14	1,4
Netherlands	11/09/08	16	1,6
Estonia	23/09/08	12	1,2
Finland	30/09/08	7	0,7
Spain	08/10/08	8	0,8
Belgium	15/10/08	7	0,7
Sweden	10/12/08	56	5,6
Germany	25/09/09	289	28,9
Poland	12/10/09	17	1,7
Ireland	23/10/09	11	1,1
Czech Republic	13/11/09	21	2,1

I've used those dates, and some sections of the sequence besides that between Sweden and Germany are a bit too fast to watch comfortably, but I think it's not resolvable really; so unless there are any clever suggestions people should choose between this and the old one. Urpunkt (talk) 21:02, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Red Colouring of Ireland's Rejection[edit]

I just thought that it would be interesting if Ireland's Rejection on 12 June 2008 would be included in the animation with a red colouring. This was after all, if I'm not mistaken, one of the most major 'hick-ups' of the Treaty's Ratification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vorondil (talk • contribs) 09:28, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ireland didn't reject the treaty though. The only result was that their government was temporarily prevented from passing the necessary legislation. There were upsets in other countries, which were also disruptive, and they can't be codified as a category with a colour so they couldn't go in even if we were making a map showing multiple stages, which we aren't for simplicity's sake. Urpunkt (talk) 21:02, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]